Black people commit so much crime

[avilo]

More of basically every violent crime than any other race, while being 13% of the US, it's good to accept the worst of what mexico sends to the US, or to say having more black people makes a region the same - but only in theory, when the rubber meets the road you will drop this idealism

[Matt8800]

17 minutes ago, avilo said:

More of basically every violent crime than any other race, while being 13% of the US, it's good to accept the worst of what mexico sends to the US, or to say having more black people makes a region the same - but only in theory, when the rubber meets the road you will drop this idealism

@avilo Regardless of those percentages, emphasizing those facts denies the sovereignty and dignity of the individual. 

It does not matter whether a group shows different tendencies overall because every individual has the right to be judged individually. It should also be acknowledged that data regarding certain groups is impacted to some degree by the stereotypes already in place, resulting in skewed and incomplete data.

With that said, I acknowledge that it might be difficult to apply the sanctity of the individual because when importing groups of people from a certain region because it also imports the average crime rates and crimes that may be particular to that region, which can vary greatly. I dont claim to have an answer to this but truth should never be denied in the debate IF it is true (data shows it is true).

If a society is going to agree to an relatively open immigration policy simply out of respect to the concepts of freedom and dignity of the individual, that is fine but group dynamics should at least be acknowledged and accepted in the final decision.

It is a more nuanced situation than you are presenting and the dignity of the individual should not be ignored in the debate.

Edited October 27, 2019 by Matt8800

[ajasatya]

@avilo Men also commit more crimes than women. So what?

Racial segregation is not aligned with the purposes of this forum. This thread is being locked.

Also, you have been displaying a pattern of poor contributions. Consider this a warning.

[Leo Gura]

Maybe the crime of slavery and vicious racism had something to do with it?