Late-Stage Capitalism At Its Finest (Fallout 1st Fiasco)

[Leo Gura]

@Yog They are still young and innocent. The devil hasn't gotten to them yet. A few more big hits should do it.

[tenta]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Yog They are still young and innocent. The devil hasn't gotten to them yet. A few more big hits should do it.

Do you mean the stock holders will corrupt the art? Just the money itself will get to their heads? Or the new people employed there could be devils who won't keep up the original intentions of the company?

[Leo Gura]

@tenta All the above and more.

[DnoReally]

https://falloutfirst.com/

[Thewritersunion]

Now that’s true enlightenment

[Girzo]

CD Project is not yet a company with a Green set of values, so they are still susceptible to that kind of materialistic pathologies.

Although, even if they were more evolved a company as it is growing can revert to a lower stage. There are Yellow companies like AES that reverted to Orange because of leadership change.

Some leaders actively fight this effect, for example Yvon Chouinard keeps Patagonia from growing so it doesn't become obsessed with profits and stays true with the goal of being environmentally friendly by reducing consumption. What's more, he doesn't want to stop only his business from growing, he wants to halt the whole niche of outdoor apparel.

[CreamCat]

Customers can just leave. After all, you can pay for other games.

But, it's not easy for workers to just leave the company. It's workers you should be worried about.

What's far worse than game developers you can avoid is a nearby commercial store playing speakers loudly at night and dawn. You cannot avoid the environmental noise which disrupts your sleep.

At least, game developers are not going to take money forcefully from you, disrupt your sleep, poison your food, or prevent you from having sex.

Edited October 30, 2019 by CreamCat

[CreamCat]

On 10/29/2019 at 8:54 AM, Girzo said:

he wants to halt the whole niche of outdoor apparel.

I think outdoor apparel is a distraction. It doesn't seem important to me.

[CreamCat]

On 10/29/2019 at 8:54 AM, Girzo said:

Some leaders actively fight this effect, for example Yvon Chouinard keeps Patagonia from growing so it doesn't become obsessed with profits and stays true with the goal of being environmentally friendly by reducing consumption.

You can grow without being obsessed with growth. You can develop Orange without making it backfire.

[Girzo]

@CreamCat Patagonia is already a company worth over $1 billion. Why would anyone who has transcended Orange want to grow it more, for what reason?

More consumption = more damage to the environment. The current mainstream mindset that endless growth is desired is the cancer of the planet.

[CreamCat]

@Girzo Growth without purpose can become a distraction. It's important to be mindful of purpose and the big picture.

Edited October 30, 2019 by CreamCat

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, CreamCat said:

At least, game developers are not going to take money forcefully from you, disrupt your sleep, poison your food, or prevent you from having sex.

Game development studios do all the above.

They force employees to work overtime without pay, not sleep, feed them junk food at the office, keep them at work so much there's little sex, and withhold bonus pay. This is all standard game industry practice.

[CreamCat]

24 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They force employees to work overtime without pay, not sleep, feed them junk food at the office, keep them at work so much there's little sex, and withhold bonus pay. This is all standard game industry practice.

That's what I kind of meant when I wrote you should be worried about workers rather than about customers.

Loot boxes and microtransactions are relatively harmless, compared to what they do to workers.

As a customer, you can at least avoid such game developers by buying other games.

[tenta]

11 hours ago, CreamCat said:

Customers can just leave.

 

Notice how this is biased

[Thewritersunion]

It will be like the anime industry in japan.

the workers will buckle. Soon we wait

[outlandish]

What are some interesting, artful, creative games these days?

FRACT OSC, Everything, and No Man's Sky all looked really interesting.

[mikelyons]

@Leo Gura @CreamCat Not only that, but video games in general are also designed, similar to gambling and social media, to curry maximum engagement from their audience. They are extremely addictive and this prevents many young men (and women) from ever becoming strong, conditioned, calibrated, fit, worldly and the combination of all these; attractive. 

There are studies, coming out on hacker news today that there is such a recession in the amount of sex young people are having that it is contributing to economic recession factors. Further, there have been several studies that have come up on hacker news in recent years that point to video games as a chief distractor and retreat for young men who cannot find companionship and sex because they spend so much time on their games that they never learn the skills necessary to get the girl.

This is why RSD makes millions and millions of dollars, because something's gotta give and by the time it does, paying for instruction and in-field coaching is the only way once you've wasted your 20s.

(Please forgive my obvious bias)

Edited October 30, 2019 by mikelyons
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[CreamCat]

So, game industry and pick-up industry inadvertently help each other to suck time and money out of human cattles?

Of course, they do. But, it's your responsibility to stay away from those distractions. Mosquitos are going to exist for many years. Society is designed to create mosquitos that suck time and money and attention out of human cattles. Facebook is one such big fat mosquito. Mosquitos exist in nearly infinite numbers.

If you don't take responsibility, no one else will do it for you.

Edited October 30, 2019 by CreamCat

[Extreme Z7]

2 hours ago, CreamCat said:

So, game industry and pick-up industry inadvertently help each other to suck time and money out of human cattles?

Of course, they do. But, it's your responsibility to stay away from those distractions. Mosquitos are going to exist for many years. Society is designed to create mosquitos that suck time and money and attention out of human cattles. Facebook is one such big fat mosquito. Mosquitos exist in nearly infinite numbers.

If you don't take responsibility, no one else will do it for you.

Don't compare them to mosquitoes.

These massive companies are even more blood-thirsty, disgusting, abhorrent creatures.

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Extreme Z7 said:

Don't compare them to mosquitoes.

These massive companies are even more blood-thirsty, disgusting, abhorrent creatures.

They are you.