I'm Thinking Of Buying Some Nootrobox / Nootropics

[khalifa]

After reading through

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-05-10/these-bro-scientists-want-to-sell-you-mind-hacking-pills

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-05-10/better-living-through-nootropics

 

https://nootrobox.com/rise

https://nootrobox.com/sprint

 

Their site seems quite convincing, I thought i might give rise + sprint a try. Wondering if it would help on meditation since it increases working memory overtime + other cognitive functions.

Is this a bad idea?

 

edit:

these are on my amazon cart right now after seeing leo's video, although i'm somewhat afraid of mixing them with nootrobox they might backfire or my body may respond to them

 

edit thought i'd add these three in aswell

 

 

Edited May 24, 2016 by khalifa

[khalifa]

update, done my research on nootropics

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/nootropics/wiki/beginners

 

Apparently it's better to make your own stack/formula, over buying ready made ones from various companies that sell their own nootropic pills with different formulas

 

some guy from reddit helped me out and adviced i'd try this for as beginner, (note i choose one type of racetam or noopept, and i take it with the bacopa + L-theanine and either Alpha-GPC or CDA (also known as citicoline-sodium))

http://nootropicsdepot.com/bacognize-bacopa-monnieri-300mg-capsules/

http://nootropicsdepot.com/basic-nootropic-capsules-sample-pack-15ct-jars-of-aniracetam-noopept-oxiracetam-piracetam/

http://nootropicsdepot.com/l-theanine-200mg-capsules/

http://nootropicsdepot.com/citicoline-sodium-300mg-capsules/

 

will use a stack for a month or 2 before changing

 

stack1 bacopa+piracetam+Ltheanine+CDA

stack2 bacopa+nopept+Ltheanine+CDA

stack3 bacopa+oxiracetam+Ltheanine+CDA

stack4 bacopa+aniracetam+Ltheanine+CDA

 

 

 

maybe for a later stack i might try these alpha+phos+L-theanine+bacapo

http://www.powdercity.com/products/alpha-gpc-capsules

http://www.powdercity.com/products/phosphatidylserine-powder

 

 

http://www.powdercity.com/products/phenylpiracetam-dosage

I might try phenylpiracetam later with either stack need to do more research later

(Phenylpiracetam: Increases stamina/energy and tolerance to very cold/hot weather. It's banned under WADA for sports so it definitely has some affects. it's recommend to use piracetam for a month or two before considering phenylpiracetam.)

 

http://www.pillscout.com/mood-enhancers/mr-happys-uridine-stack-mood-and-memory/

and maybe a uridine happy stack later..

 

I wonder what kind of effects i'd get on meditation with these  http://sweat.burnthis.com/sweat-on-the-street-2/mindfulness/nootropics-assistance-meditation

 

I will fast 2 days a week (on weekends), and 5days to a week every 2 months. So my body doesn't get addicted or dependent on these pills. that should eliminate any possible side effects of long term use of these.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2016 by khalifa

[ChimpBrain]

Cool man, keep us posted! I've messed around with quite a few of them too. I currently take alpha GPC, huperzine  and vinepocetine every day before my workouts. I've tried several of the racetams and noopept and wasn't impressed but I hope you have better luck. You gave me some new ones to try that I wasn't familiar with, so thanks! 

[khalifa]

@ChimpBrain everyone's body works differently, Some reject the chems some don't use them they just flush or their body is not really affected by them or they get irradiated by them. (it also depends on body mass maybe? ) make sure you read about their side effects before trying them some are less severe and are just short term on use, don't mix too much stuff off those dose's.

 

I heard it takes 2weeks to 10 weeks to feel any effects since it takes awhile for new neurons to grow

 

Have you tried  Centrophenoxine or NSI-189 or Phenylpiracetam ?

 

Another interesting stack

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/4lefg0/cool_i_found_a_noot_to_enhance_neuroplasticity/d3mph3y

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/comments/4lefg0/cool_i_found_a_noot_to_enhance_neuroplasticity/d3mqqi3

 

 

I might try these later, dropping these here so i don't forget

http://www.powdercity.com/products/alcar-capsules

http://www.powdercity.com/products/galantamine-capsules

 

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/61206-my-add-stack-in-development/

 

 

 

http://www.nootropix.com/abcs-smart-drugs-what-are-nootropics-what-to-expect/

http://www.nootropix.com/nootropics-add-adhd-10-adderall-alternatives/

http://www.powdercity.com/products/l-tyrosine-side-effects

 

 

 

http://www.powdercity.com/products/artichoke-extract-forskolin-stack is this CILTEP?

+ ALCAR + L-Phenylalanine or  L-N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine

 

 

 

i took a brainoptimization test here from www.brainoptimization.com

 

 

 

 

Edited May 28, 2016 by khalifa

[khalifa]

Just took a blood test today (will see results in 10 days) , if all goes well my stack will be

 

Bacopa Monnieri + Artichoke Extract and Forskolin Capsules + CDA choline + Piracatam/Oxitam + Rhodiola Rosea + creatine

 

Bacopa for improving memory (takes around 8-12 weeks for it to build up) [it also works as an antioxidant]

Artrichoke cap for energy all day

CDA helps the tam's to get absorbed by the body

Rhodiola for anti stress/fatigue

Pira/Oxi for improved cognitive functions (focus/concentration+ better short/long term memory)

Creatine : it's cheap and effective helps with ATP absorption. help maintain and build muscle mass if you exercise

 

Morning

 

Bacopa Monnieri : 3 capsules (300mgx3 = 900mg)  http://nootropicsdepot.com/bacognize-bacopa-monnieri-300mg-capsules/

https://examine.com/supplements/Bacopa+monnieri/

Artichoke Extract and Forskolin Capsules : 3 capsules [ALCAR MIX] http://www.powdercity.com/products/artichoke-extract-forskolin-stack

contains Artrichock extract 750mg + forskohli 10% 5mg + Phenylalanine 500mg + Acetyl L-Carnitine (ALCAR)

 

 

CDA choline  : 1 cap (400mg) http://www.powdercity.com/products/cdp-choline-sodium-capsules

https://examine.com/supplements/CDP-choline/

Piracatam : 2 caps (800mgx2 = 1600mg) http://www.powdercity.com/products/piracetam-capsules?variant=8208926085

Oxiracetam: 1 or 2 cap (750mg per cap or 750mg x2 = 1500mg ) http://www.powdercity.com/products/oxiracetam-capsules

(will take x2 if i don't feel anything it's probably going to create a brain fog for me if my body can't handle the dose)

Piracatam/Oxiracetam (will use one tam for a month then switch to the other one on the next month)

https://examine.com/supplements/Piracetam/

https://examine.com/supplements/Oxiracetam/

 

 

Evening

Creatine capsules : 1 cap  (2.5g)  http://www.iherb.com/Optimum-Nutrition-Creatine-2500-Caps-200-Capsules/68618

https://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/

Rhodiola Rosea :  1 or 2 caps ( 250mg or 500mg) http://www.powdercity.com/products/rhodiola-rosea-benefits-dosage 

https://examine.com/supplements/Rhodiola+Rosea/

 

 

 

 

Night

Lacking vitamins

http://puu.sh/pbmi2.png

Vitamin B  for general blood flow
Vitamin D aids in muscle growth / overall energy and denser healthy bones
Zinc / Magnesium for the body to generally absorb better (both cognitive brain wise and body)
Vitamin C helps the  immune system (although be aware that taking too much of it, will delay muscle growth)
Vitamin A helps eye vision

 

 

 

 

Be warned artrichoke + bacopa both will have heavy side effects for people with thyroid issues ( I might have thyroid problems not sure, but i'll find out in 10 days due to the blood test) If you have no thyroid issues they are safe with the proper dosage.

Other than that

Piracetam and creatine are safe too, since they've been under a lot of research. They do have short term side effects if you mess up on the dosage or if your body acts differently towards them. However everyone's body is different so no way to find out but trying it out.

While Oxiracetam hasn't been studied well enough for it to be safe long term.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2016 by khalifa

[Psychonaut]

Quick question:

Why do you believe that you need this?

This seems like a ton of additional stuff which is probably not cheap either.

[khalifa]

@Psychonaut biohacking for more optimum results (i forgot to update on the anti oxidants )

[Omar]

Hello, I would like to know about the elements that the brain needs for good functioning ,because it will help me chose the right supplements to increase my work performance , and websites aren't really helping because they keep advertising for their own products .

 Thanks in advance

[khalifa]

@Omar everybody's body chemistry is different, you can't really apply the same nootropics to everyone. you need to try them out yourself to see what works for you and what doesn't.

 

And be aware you can damage your brain overtime or within a first use, they aren't risk free.

 

For example, Alpha-GPC can make someone drowsy/sleepy within their intake or some other people experience headaches all day. While others find it as a good mood mild antidepressant like while it helps out their memory at the same time. Etc.

Reason why it makes some people get headaches is because it gives in way too much choline as their brain naturally makes lots of it and doesn't lack any which causes them to feel the headache. While some people are lacking in choline which makes them sharper or happier.

 

 

I'd recommend caffeine if you want something safe, just make sure your properly hydrated and use it twice a week.

I'd also recommend a good diet with lots of veggies mainly, as that's the best you could give your brain in a healthy manner.

And mainly the most important thing you should be doing is meditating everyday for an hour, that helps the most overtime.

 

http://puu.sh/pTlz2.jpg

 

 

I'm still experimenting with a bunch of stacks i've bought, I still did not update my list.

 

http://puu.sh/pZKlA.JPG

 

currently testing

alpha gpc 50%   100 grams
bacopa 250grams
rosea (100grams)
blue berry extract 25 grams
ALCAR 250grams
Micronized Creatine Monohydrate Powder (1kg)
caffeine anhydrous powder (50grams)

L-theanine  100grams

Piracetam  250grams

Black cumin 5lbs

2.5k empty gelatin pills size 00

2.5k empty gelatin pills size 0

 Cap-m quicks with tamper both size 0/00

 

Will follow up a review later, if i don't overdose and die.

 

Edited July 13, 2016 by khalifa

[Omar]

oh man,I really apreciate your help I couldn't find these answers else where...

 

[MarkusR]

 What does this mean?

[khalifa]

@MarkusR

 

Just a third party test, it's probably inaccurate it just tries to estimate your brain matter state via online tests on daily life. TBH seems like it's marketed towards gimmicky scamming people. But at the same time it has some truth to it but not quite accurate.