About '' Controling The Thoughts''

[Vlad Ropotica]

I think that most of us know that you cannot control the thoughts,but every time i hear ,this it is also a sentence like : ''try to stop your thoughts ,and you will do worse'' ,but if you cannot control your thoughts,control doesn't exist,right? (i mean,just in the thoughts idea) , so what it is actually the control? another judgement on the present thought?

[Mal]

9 minutes ago, Vlad Ropotica said:

 so what it is actually the control? another judgement on the present thought?

Good question! Perhaps the ultimate question surrounding this whole spiritual endeavour? The essence of enlightened experience in one secentence perhaps?

However, instead of answering your question directly, I encourage you to practice - we don't  need to know intellectually what this controlling aspect is - what is more useful to us is the experiential element of discovering how this controlling centre creates our current reality. 

Happy sitting!

Mal 

[Corte]

the way that you achieve this control is not by losing or finding it, but simply realizing you never needed it to begin with. 

[vizual]

So what is in control you ask? The same thing that makes the world spin, the rivers flow, the ants march and the clouds float in the sky. Who or what is that? you tell me  

Identify 'your' awareness with thought, and the thoughts will go rampant. Identify awareness with the totality of being, and you will know peace and harmony with existence. Saying you are your thoughts is like a log saying how good of a swimmer he is when he's floating down a river stream. Sure, the log can go fast and all, but is he really doing the swimming?

[Salaam]

Control is what people look for when they lack trust and capability

I don't control my thoughts (the rigidity of such a one-dimensional endeavor fucks with the flow of automatic systems. I've hurt myself plenty learning this lesson), but I have built strong connections and rapports with my autonomic systems so that I can choose what I want to focus on, and handle the processing of that shift in focus as my body's chemical, pneumatic, and electromagnetic chemistries re-orient in response.

Thought really isn't that big of a deal, it's only a small part of the picture, when it comes to the over-all positioning that takes place with a given focus.