New funny Peter Ralston video

[iGhost]

https://youtu.be/tXlXZ_zSCT4

 

Starting from 4:00 mark.

Yeah it's funny but see the actual wisdom presented.

[Pouya]

@iGhost I love Peter Ralston

His main point here was stop chasing experiences. Just go directly for Truth and Wisdom of Truth.

But why does he talk about "as a perosn" ?

@Leo Gura Does Peter Ralston know about facets of God and has he tried any pcychedelics? Or is he more triditional nondual teacher?

[Leo Gura]

24 minutes ago, Pouya said:

 

@Leo Gura Does Peter Ralston know about facets of God and has he tried any pcychedelics?

Yes

But that still doesn't mean he gets all there is to get about it.

These are notoriously complex and tricky issues. So don't be looking for simplistic answers here.

[kieranperez]

21 minutes ago, Pouya said:

Does Peter Ralston know about facets of God and has he tried any pcychedelics? Or is he more triditional nondual teacher?

Psychedelics is just more states and just more experiences. Ralston has a lot of history with psychedelics. Enlightenment is not experience. It is not a state. 

[Truth Addict]

55 minutes ago, kieranperez said:

Enlightenment is not experience. It is not a state. 

And it is.

[mindcentral]

On 26-9-2019 at 6:04 AM, Leo Gura said:

Yes

But that still doesn't mean he gets all there is to get about it.

These are notoriously complex and tricky issues. So don't be looking for simplistic answers here.

 

On 26-9-2019 at 6:04 AM, kieranperez said:

Psychedelics is just more states and just more experiences. Ralston has a lot of history with psychedelics. Enlightenment is not experience. It is not a state. 

How do you know Ralston has experience with psychedelics?

[Mezanti]

why is this guy so aggressive and he's contradicting himself, "there is no method to enlightenment" one second later "just calm down focus and grasp it" that's a method, psychedelics is a method.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Mezanti

[kieranperez]

11 hours ago, mindcentral said:

 

How do you know Ralston has experience with psychedelics?

Don’t worry about it.

 

11 hours ago, Mezanti said:

why is this guy so aggressive and he's contradicting himself, "there is no method to enlightenment" one second later "just calm down focus and grasp it" that's a method, psychedelics is a method.

How many times do I need to repeat this? He’s ACTING. This is done all the time in authentic hardcore spiritual communities and circles. He’s not actually angry. This is done for example in Zen monasteries to break you because that’s what it takes to get some people to drop shit. Ralston has a 50 year history of being one of the greatest martial artists of the 20th century. He’s not a sweet little spiritual bunny. That’s how he does it.

and you still don’t get what he means by saying don’t not confusing a state for consciousness and there not being a method. Certain “focused states” can help but that is still merely and only a process and invention done to facilitate a direct consciousness towards Absolute Truth. That is no different than what Leo said earlier regarding the proper usage and intent of psychedelics. Ralston is trying to make the point that a direct consciousness of say what you are CAN lead to a change of state but all because you have a crazy experience or state change doesn’t mean you have a direct consciousness into the nature of something.

I gave this example already but I’ll give it again: you can have a STATE/EXPERIENCE of seemingly infinite space. HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean you grasp what the nature of space IS because if you did you’d realize that space doesn’t exist. That’s the different between having a direct consciousness (or a direct knowing) into what something is FOR ITSELF AS IT IS and having a crazy experience and then inventing a whole meaning and confabulation that you generate, fabricate, and invent from mind. A direct consciousness/knowing is transcendent of mind as is enlightenment. 

That is the point being made.