So where does everyone stand with "enlightenment" on this forum ?

[Aakash]

Correct Godel showed that as long as you hi jack an axiom of the reader that that axiom will keep swirling around in their direct experiencing, interpreting everything via the subconscious mind by that axiom. In this way, it would literally become their reality. This is how cults get you through mechanised programming, but a good cult tells you how to avoid cults because then it makes you question whether the organisation your in is a cult itself, thus leaving the axiom to be dealt with at an appropriate time, instead of it immediately swirling around their reality forever, until they would have an exestential crisis when proven wrong, if that idea turned out to be false. 

for example if i gave you the axiom that you need to have direct experience 

that single axiom will swirl around your reality and reinforce itself , to the point where you will tell someone else that if they don't have direct experience they don't have "truth" . 

However, given the cirucmstances that god placed us in , direct experience was the best option. Until god himself came and then direct experience is no longer needed. The simple acknolwedgment of his human self is proof and that will create the axiom on the outside of consciousness via belief. Because now belief becomes axioms grounded in absolute truth. As opposed to relative truth. Then when it is proved via understanding it becomes absolute and now that swirls around your reality. The correct absolute truth. 

Edited September 21, 2019 by Aakash

[Leo Gura]

Useless thread