Hardcore Meditation Results

[Donald]

I usually meditate for 30 min every day with a pillow cross legged  and my spine upstraight ( in the floor) 

I was wondering how would it be if I just sit down the floor bare foot and deal with the pain ( it may sound neurotic) 

Today I gave it a try , for 43 min than I gave up, the pain was literally overwhelming. But  at the last 10 min or so I felt something strange . Like everything was flowing, the pain , the surrounding . At that moment I just tried the thought flattening technique , trying to flatten the thought of "Me"  and  I couldn't really find the "I" . Like I was literally transparent.  It felt like the pain  was not happening to me but it was flowing through me, everything in my perception was flowing through me . Like there was no point in space where "I" was located.  But it was only for a couple of minutes and then  boom the pain just hit me and I said SHIT!!! I must get up!!!?

 

[Corte]

That's an awesome experience  I'm going to try more of this. What helped you to flow the pain? 

[Jani]

Yeah cross legged is painful for me too. I meditate for 1 hour every morning on floor and after the meditation it's really painful to get up and you will occasionally feel the pain in your joints throughout the day. Meditation done the same way on couch, bed or anything soft reduces the pain a lot. It's really cool when you like step back from the pain you're constantly focused on, it like happens but it doesn't bother you that much anymore, although reality will take you back to that as soon as it gets unbearable. Good job with the meditation session keep it up!

[vizual]

Heheh, pretty funny. Pain and pleasure are the same thing essentially, it's the thought we add to it that makes it 'bad' or 'good'. I remember a talk of Alan Watts saying that in torture, that after a while the pain almost always turns into pleasure and the torturer has to stop because it doesn't have the desired effect anymore on the subject. I guess there is this strong sense of power and maybe even immortality in detaching yourself of physical pain since physical pain is the most 'real' kinds of pain we can experience. Emotional pain is such a grey area in which every person has different triggers which might evoke pain, but everyone can relate to the physical.