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Stage Red video pretty please?

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Hey, I know Leo said he'd shoot a video on Red yet hasn't yet.   

I also realize it's probably not high on the priorities list since many people aren't there and that I'm speaking for myself here since I think I'm just entering it or have been stuck in it for a while.

But I think it would really help me with orienting me and noting where to work on.

It might also help "complete" the series a bit more.  

If not, does anyone know of good resources to study stage Red?

Thanks!


"Just a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down"   --   Marry Poppins

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Yeah purple would be good as well imo.

On a very brief note, he could talk about stage beige and its relation to the entire model, as there is usually something special about the first element of any system. After all, everything builds from beige. So what is beige? 

 

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Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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Definitely down for some more SD content. Especially about how the stages build on eachother, and how lower stages still have influence when operating from higher stages.

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I would like another spiral dynamics nuances vid. maybe practical applications in daily life 

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Has anyone read the SD books?  There's probably more info in there about lower stages, etc.

If you have, could you give a brief description and opinion?

Thanks


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On 8/31/2019 at 6:16 PM, Matt23 said:

If not, does anyone know of good resources to study stage Red?

I've found this to be a handy webpage.

http://www.consciousdynamicsllc.com/home/levels_of_consciousness.html

,,,,,,Red

The Red level of consciousness is impulsive and egocentric. The core
motivation is about doing what you want and being who you are, regardless
of the consequences (Ooten, Unpublished). Neurotransmitters related to guilt
are not physiologically present in individuals at this level, thus guilt is not
expressed (Graves, 2005). The world is seen as rough and harsh; the mentality
is about fighting to survive. At this level of consciousness, the needs of the
individual outweigh the needs of the group. The individual expresses himself
in an egocentric, exploitive, impulsive, control-driven manner. There are two
categories of individuals at this level: the victim and the perpetrator, or a few
“haves” and many “have nots” (Beck, 2006). Hedonism, immediate sensory
gratification, power impulses and displays, and spontaneous guilt-free actions
drive the individual. Individuals at this level are most motivated by survival
fears, using any means of exploitation to attain power (Graves, 1974). When
individuals begin to question why they must die and impulsive living takes its
toll, some people will shift into the next wave of development (Graves, 1974).,,,,,,,,


"To have a free mind is to be a universal heretic." - A.H. Almaas

"We have to bless the living crap out of everyone." - Matt Kahn

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21 hours ago, Zigzag Idiot said:

There are two
categories of individuals at this level: the victim and the perpetrator, or a few
“haves” and many “have nots” (Beck, 2006).

@Zigzag Idiot This really reminds me of Cook-Greuter's paper Leo put on his blog (https://www.actualized.org/insights?p=4).  It's a developmental model.  In it she discusses what she calls the "Opportunist" stage 2/3; which has a further distinction between "opportunistic" and "self-protective."  The next stage after this is called the "Diplomat", which to me resembles stage Blue significantly.  It seems like these two examples are describing the same thing.


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@Matt23 Thank you.

Yes, I agree. Seems to be. Same/same 

Right now I'm enjoying rereading that in the link you provided!


"To have a free mind is to be a universal heretic." - A.H. Almaas

"We have to bless the living crap out of everyone." - Matt Kahn

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Yes! I want to see a video about this! Maybe he can combine red and purple into one.


“Many talk like philosophers yet live like fools.” — Proverb

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i also think the lower spiral colours are due at some point - but would not combine them into one, even though it’s pretty interesting how they turn out together in special occasions (remembering the cannibal documentary about sera leone’s child soldiers now grown up into blue)

although lower chakras videos, would be interesting to also somehow go into the atmosphere of both. 

maybe at some point we can also expect a new turquoise video? sometimes external conditions can make space for creativity.

if you want these videos why not create a red and a purple mega thread?

red also means being a little bold.

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He should do a three part series about Red, Coral, and how they are related.


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