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What's the point of gods, goddesses and saints if you are god?

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What is the point of all the Hindu, African and other gods plus Jesus, Krishna and Ganesha and basically all saints and angels?

There are so many traditional  events and rituals In honour of these gods  and saints.

Many participants of such events  say they could heal themselves through these benevolent spirits and others enter in trance being incorporated by them and retell that they couldnt remember anything.

I myself have after a psychedelic felt Jesus presence for a few seconds and it was without a doubt him, I could recognize his goodness, love and peace everybody talked about, when I felt his presence I knew directly it was him, there was no nanosecond of doubt, he presented himself and it was crystal clear, like the most kind person ever existed.

Also the San Pedro/Peyote cactus gods/spirits, mother Ayahuasca, the Salvia gods, archangel Gabriel, the ocean GodessYemanja, the warrior God Ogum, the fertility god/dess and so on....

It does seem that they (even them being us) have a distinct role on the unfolding of our reality. Many say they control aspects of your human character, tragedies and global happenings In general like a management team of lovong spirits for the development of human kind (even if to some people, that seems odd).

 I know ultimately I am God and everything,  but what is the point of all these invisible spirits and gods,  that are me anyway and rarely show up other then being honoured in a ritual

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The point is that their very form is form itself pointing you to truth. Your reality is no different to their box of awareness as they still were “me” in their incarnated forms. Hence some enlightened parts of themselves and were seen as god like qualities. 

The overall point of them was to teach you about the word “death” they all told their own versions of how the seperate self was created. However their level of understanding of death represented what knowledge they had about their own reality. Which is identical to your box of reality. 

How to die to god 

the god beyond them. 

Then followers mistook them for god’s. Because their god like qualities is something they dogmatically forced upon themselves as opposed to actually  expanding their ego and feeling it from a sense of genuinity 

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Hmmm but these are actual spirits, like so myself felt Jesus spirit with my whole being, it was right after a 5 Meo dmt attempt and it was crystal clear that it was him.

I am totally sure ever since that Jesus is an always present extremely  benevolent and loving spirit. 

It is not that he only used to be a human, when he presents himself you feel extreme love radiated by him even when everything else does not radiate love.

People that take psychedelics also report about, the plant gods: spirit of mother ayahuasca, peyote spirit/god, salvia goddess and also non psychedelic godesses like the ocean goddess the rock gods, where people certainly  feel their presence.

Ultimately  we are all one, but what is the purpose of an invisible spirit not showing itself to you, until dead? 

I think there is actually way much more involved in the mystery we live in

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The box ? that Jesus filled up, is directly equivalent to the box you filled up of your awareness. In your theoretical foundation, not your actuality. 

in actuality instead of you calling it your own awareness as you are the god of your box. You called it Jesus as form for the elevation in presence or awareness in your box. But your box is the same as Jesus’s box because the boxes are identical. Therefore you are God, in the form of you and Jesus. 

You did not feel Jesus. You felt yourself but called it Jesus. 

:) 

 

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Even God needs his middle-men. 


Bearing with the conditioned in gentleness, fording the river with resolution, not neglecting what is distant, not regarding one's companions; thus one may manage to walk in the middle. H11L2

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