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Please help me to gather all mysterious, occult, extraordinary, super, magical, not yet fully known and unknown that is really happening in this world, universe and cosmos, you may share your own stuffs, pictures, videos, etc..in any form...,, i want to open myself to the possibilities and make something from what i will learn and realize .. again my life purpose is to overwhelm people from all extraordinary things that is really happening.. any people, events, anything... and please send the actuality of it.. for example astral projection or lucid dreaming yes that is really happening that is very mysterious and now where is the actuality of that thing send it here.. please overwhelm me with all the things you'll share..

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48 minutes ago, Keyhole said:

The thing is, with many of these things, the act of sharing them with others cuts the power of the experience in half - this is why I only share a very select few experiences - ones that were somewhat watered down before I understood this.

It's good to keep some things secret.

You can try this for yourself.  Share an extraordinary message you have been given in a mystical experience with other people, and keep one secret - the one that is unspoken will not lose its "punch" so to speak.

Uhm may zone of geniues is being able to see purity .. and so in my journey is to go there someday and experience it for myself..  for now.. please be considerate of how i want to discover it then experience its actuality someday.. just share it here, do some credits...

 

HELP ME TO OVERWHELM PEOPLE FROM ALL EXTRAORDINARY THINGS THAT IS REALLY HAPPENING PLEASE.. 

I WANT MAKE PEOPLE SEE THE ACTUALITY OF IT.. the world must see everything here and change the way they look in the world that where they are is spiritual and magical.. just give me a chance to make that happen.. 

for now i need to discover and look forward to go there.. to make a plan... i will make a plan.. and my mind also will come up an idea to that if this thread will be successful

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1 hour ago, Keyhole said:

The thing is, with many of these things, the act of sharing them with others cuts the power of the experience in half - this is why I only share a very select few experiences - ones that were somewhat watered down before I understood this.

It's good to keep some things secret.

You can try this for yourself.  Share an extraordinary message you have been given in a mystical experience with other people, and keep one secret - the one that is unspoken will not lose its "punch" so to speak.

Unless you're Jesus. Telling others has a way of destroying our own faith and confidence, but that's only because we let it. Our faith in other gave them power over us because that power was ours all along. When experiences are shared out of love and oneness there is no loss of power. The intention and reason behind the sharing of it is important to carefully examine. 


My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost

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1 hour ago, Keyhole said:

The thing is, with many of these things, the act of sharing them with others cuts the power of the experience in half - this is why I only share a very select few experiences - ones that were somewhat watered down before I understood this.

It's good to keep some things secret.

You can try this for yourself.  Share an extraordinary message you have been given in a mystical experience with other people, and keep one secret - the one that is unspoken will not lose its "punch" so to speak.

I know this feeling and I did this for a very long time until I understood that it's a form of fear.
It was fear of:

  1. others invalidating my experience and seeing that I've been tricking myself
  2. losing something that is most special about me
  3. having the ego take over and ruin things in case it actually helps people.

The 'punch' is not for you. It is for the benefit of everybody. Trust yourself.

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Bearing with the conditioned in gentleness, fording the river with resolution, not neglecting what is distant, not regarding one's companions; thus one may manage to walk in the middle. H11L2

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37 minutes ago, mandyjw said:

Unless you're Jesus. Telling others has a way of destroying our own faith and confidence, but that's only because we let it. Our faith in other gave them power over us because that power was ours all along. When experiences are shared out of love and oneness there is no loss of power. The intention and reason behind the sharing of it is important to carefully examine. 

I am not doing that to destroy your own faith.. it is the other way around.. peoply like you deserve to see by other people as truth.. people see you as myth.. people see you as not scientific.. i'm here and i will dive in my life purpose whole heartedly that people like you or events that is mysterious is really happening and i will do everything just to protect you by my zone of genius.. as i said earlier my zone of genius is being able to see purity .. so if i use my power that way, they will see pure and truth and it will generate light to change people see the world around him /her.. i am not taking your power.. all i want is to bring to people that hey this is true.. and overwhelm them to all extraordinary things that is really happening.. i live in an environment and growing up the media and people say things that it is imposible and it is edited if someone do things on a video do beyond limitation.. and isn't it very inspiring someday you'll live in the society that you will live as normal people.. i want someday that what powers you have you can use it and have freedom to make that your profit.. for example you can be a doctor using powers like that.. now? If you heal people will not accept you because you are not a doctor.. you are quack doctor.... just trust me with my ultimate vision... :( 

if Leo come to this point of him want to guve insight and wisdom.. just try to trust me to my purpose to overwhelm people from all extraordinary things that is really happening.. after all, i use LP Course to realize this.. so being able to use LPC please trust my intuition amd my heart and my soul :( and or my consciousness

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12 minutes ago, Keyhole said:

@John Iverson You might be misunderstanding what I am saying, and I know that I am having a bit of a hard time understanding your viewpoint - and I am not sure how to bridge the language barrier, I am sorry.  I need to work on learning how to communicate with people who speak English as a second language, and have very little experience in doing so. 


@mandyjw I don't understand what you mean by unless you're Jesus, I'm sorry - do you mean that he could spread his message and did not dilute himself?  I wouldn't say that sharing my experiences with others has caused me to lose faith, just that over time, the message becomes warped from both sides.  It's like playing telephone.  I agree that intent is important.


@tsuki I'm not afraid of sharing my experiences, but for some of them my higher self has instructed me not to do so - 
1. That can be annoying when the ego is intact, but I am pretty confident in getting the message across when I need to, and try to improve on that skill.
2. These experiences aren't special - a good percentage of people will have them.  I find doing the occasional work of art to be the most special thing about me - because it is an act of expressing the higher self - while the experiences are just messages that come and go.
3.  There could certainly be something there in that statement.  I don't want my ego taking control of something that is not meant to be used inappropriately.

When you share a mystical experience, it very often takes away the power because it is something that cannot be described with words.  It separates the experience from what it is.  This isn't new, when you look into ancient traditions, one of the reasons why their stories and ways were kept so secret was to keep the knowledge as pure as possible.  By me sharing some of my experiences, I can possibly take away from another person finding their own path.

^This is very corny, but I have not found a clip yet that explains this better.

Thank you for your kindness..

-- my virtue that i want to dive my LP is Consciousness.. but if you don't want to share it's okay with me.. but idk if someone here will do the sharing.. ??? oh man!! This is hard ????

also what i will do is not through words.. but through actuality of it.. not by message.. but through actual... so i will do everything with my zone of genius to make everything pure and truth

For truth sake

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13 minutes ago, Keyhole said:

When you share a mystical experience, it very often takes away the power because it is something that cannot be described with words.

That is true, but that does not take away from the experience!
It is not true that everything you say about it is a lie! 
You simply fall short despite trying your best, so it is the infinite source of creation in the name of divinity!

 

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Bearing with the conditioned in gentleness, fording the river with resolution, not neglecting what is distant, not regarding one's companions; thus one may manage to walk in the middle. H11L2

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3 hours ago, John Iverson said:

 

 

Please help me to gather all mysterious, occult, extraordinary, super, magical, not yet fully known and unknown that is really happening in this world, universe and cosmos, you may share your own stuffs, pictures, videos, etc..in any form...,, i want to open myself to the possibilities and make something from what i will learn and realize .. again my life purpose is to overwhelm people from all extraordinary things that is really happening.. any people, events, anything... and please send the actuality of it.. for example astral projection or lucid dreaming yes that is really happening that is very mysterious and now where is the actuality of that thing send it here.. please overwhelm me with all the things you'll share..

@John Iverson Ive shared some things on my Ask an Occultist thread but I think that should be the limit of what I share hear otherwise id just sound like a raving lunatic lol

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1 hour ago, John Iverson said:

HELP ME TO OVERWHELM PEOPLE FROM ALL EXTRAORDINARY THINGS THAT IS REALLY HAPPENING PLEASE.. 

I WANT MAKE PEOPLE SEE THE ACTUALITY OF IT.. the world must see everything here and change the way they look in the world that where they are is spiritual and magical.. just give me a chance to make that happen.. 

for now i need to discover and look forward to go there.. to make a plan... i will make a plan.. and my mind also will come up an idea to that if this thread will be successful

@John Iverson Id suggest start researching witchcraft yourself. Its a legitimate spiritual path and extremely utilitarian. It most likely wont take long for you to start experiencing stuff that most people would consider impossible.

Stories from other people will never touch your own magical experience when it happens to you.

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2 minutes ago, Matt8800 said:

@John Iverson Ive shared some things on my Ask an Occultist thread but I think that should be the limit of what I share hear otherwise id just sound like a raving lunatic lol

To me you'll never become lunatic.. for now they will think you are that but someday i will move this forward to the point they will see you as human being... and people will realize how special they are.... hmm? Give me a push ? Can you bless me? ☺️

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2 hours ago, Keyhole said:

The thing is, with many of these things, the act of sharing them with others cuts the power of the experience in half - this is why I only share a very select few experiences - ones that were somewhat watered down before I understood this.

It's good to keep some things secret.

You can try this for yourself.  Share an extraordinary message you have been given in a mystical experience with other people, and keep one secret - the one that is unspoken will not lose its "punch" so to speak.

@keyhole there is truth to what you are saying.

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7 minutes ago, Matt8800 said:

@John Iverson Id suggest start researching witchcraft yourself. Its a legitimate spiritual path and extremely utilitarian. It most likely wont take long for you to start experiencing stuff that most people would consider impossible.

Stories from other people will never touch your own magical experience when it happens to you.

Hmmm interesting!! Okay okay!! I will add that to my activites list.. to research about witch crafts.. it is a long journey so but i think this is fun!! HAHAHAHAHA

where can i access stuffs to learn witchcraft then? Like books or something? Give me access

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32 minutes ago, Keyhole said:


@mandyjw I don't understand what you mean by unless you're Jesus, I'm sorry - do you mean that he could spread his message and did not dilute himself?  I wouldn't say that sharing my experiences with others has caused me to lose faith, just that over time, the message becomes warped from both sides.  It's like playing telephone.  I agree that intent is important.

As @Matt8800 said there is a lot of truth to what you're saying. I was making the point that Jesus was a master and his miracles were unavoidably very public due to their scale, yet he also said things like, "your faith has healed you, go forth and tell no one." Because, sometimes telling other people things destroys our faith. Their lack of belief is contagious. Yet a healer needs to be able to hold his/her faith so strongly that he/she is able to transfer it to others. He essentially heals by holding the faith for other people, the other people duality is itself healed in the bodily healing. 


My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost

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15 minutes ago, John Iverson said:

Hmmm interesting!! Okay okay!! I will add that to my activites list.. to research about witch crafts.. it is a long journey so but i think this is fun!! HAHAHAHAHA

where can i access stuffs to learn witchcraft then? Like books or something? Give me access

@John Iverson There is tons of info out there and the path within witchcraft can vary some. It should be right for you. Ask your spirit guide to guide you and trust that it will. Then do some researching on the internet, watch some youtube videos and look for a witchcraft book for beginners. If you look, you'll find what you're looking for.

The stuff im delving into right now probably isnt the place for a beginner to start nor is it necessarily the best specific path for another that is interested in witchcraft/sorcery.

https://www.google.com/search?q=best+witchcraft+book+for+beginners&oq=best+witchcraft+book+for+be&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.6763j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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2 minutes ago, Matt8800 said:

@John Iverson There is tons of info out there and the path within witchcraft can vary some. It should be right for you. Ask your spirit guide to guide you and trust that it will. Then do some researching on the internet, watch some youtube videos and look for a witchcraft book for beginners. If you look, you'll find what you're looking for.

The stuff im delving into right now probably isnt the place for a beginner to start nor is it necessarily the best specific path for another that is interested in witchcraft/sorcery.

https://www.google.com/search?q=best+witchcraft+book+for+beginners&oq=best+witchcraft+book+for+be&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.6763j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Uhm? Can you introduce me also to the stuff you delved? ? The deep it is the more i want to discover things

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3 hours ago, John Iverson said:

Uhm? Can you introduce me also to the stuff you delved? ? The deep it is the more i want to discover things

@John Iverson If you are ready now, tonight is the New Moon, which is special to Hekate. If you want a sign, you can do a ritual asking her for a sign.

https://www.strategicsorcery.net/a-hekate-rite-for-you/

I did this and she showed up in a very dramatic way and offered her assistance in my eternal evolution for my highest good. The other upside is that her influence makes one's witchcraft and sorcery crazy powerful.

Some people focus on her dark aspects because they get off on darkness, trying to project a fake power compensating for their lack of internal power. Her darkness is not the whole story. She can move in the darkness to guide beings towards the light. An evolved being can move in both worlds while staying true to their guiding values.

Here's an intro book for you - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0875420508/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The reason I used to think that witchcraft was foolish is because I didnt understand how mixing some stuff together could cause anything. It is the symbolism of what each thing means while fusing the symbolism with your intention and psychic energy (intense emotion) that makes it potent. It creates an energetic force on the astral realm that has influence on the physical. 

Magical influence works like this - If you try to move a 2 ton boulder by pushing it, you wont budge it although technically, you are exerting "influence". Add a wisely place fulcrum and lever and the boulder will then move with your "influence". Effective and strategic magic is like a wisely placed fulcrum and lever to move an object that is reasonably sized compared to the leverage and force applied. Build strength and learn how to properly use leverage and you can move bigger and bigger boulders.

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