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Difference between breakthrough and ego death?

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Sometimes I read people trip reports here and there, so I want to know the difference. 

 

Once, while vaporizing 5meo, I had a feeling of Infinite Love. I consider it to be a breakthrough. 

Another time, on lsd, I had a feeling that we are all One, that my friend, my mother and everyone is me. That was quite scary and I felt like I am crazy. I consider it to be an ego death. 

 

Do my descriptions sound legit? 

Another question. To have a breakthrough, should someone to have ego death first or not? Are these terms connected at all? I don't remember ego-death-lsd-feeling on 5meo. Maybe, because it was so dumb fast. 

Or maybe these 2 terms are the same? Lol


What a dream, what a joke, love it   :x

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16 minutes ago, dimitri said:

Sometimes I read people trip reports here and there, so I want to know the difference. 

 

Once, while vaporizing 5meo, I had a feeling of Infinite Love. I consider it to be a breakthrough. 

Another time, on lsd, I had a feeling that we are all One, that my friend, my mother and everyone is me. That was quite scary and I felt like I am crazy. I consider it to be an ego death. 

 

Do my descriptions sound legit? 

Another question. To have a breakthrough, should someone to have ego death first or not? Are these terms connected at all? I don't remember ego-death-lsd-feeling on 5meo. Maybe, because it was so dumb fast. 

Or maybe these 2 terms are the same? Lol

Yes they sound legit.  A mystical experience in itself is the dissolution of the ego - because you literally become the Truth itself.   So to become directly conscious of Truth is Being it.  Everything else is 2nd order.  First order is Being.  Ego is actually 2nd order.  

You can have other relative insights but they are concept and thus 2nd order.

Now - you may or may not have ego backlash after a mystical experience but ego death is imminent even if it is so fast you don't realize it.

Edited by Inliytened1

 

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37 minutes ago, dimitri said:

Once, while vaporizing 5meo, I had a feeling of Infinite Love. I consider it to be a breakthrough. 

Another time, on lsd, I had a feeling that we are all One, that my friend, my mother and everyone is me. That was quite scary and I felt like I am crazy. I consider it to be an ego death. 

Sometimes the ego gently falls asleep, sometimes it goes down kicking and screaming.

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@Inliytened1 thanks.

 

To add to my descriptions in question:

On ego death you can consciously move the body, on breakthrough you can't. Is this still legit? :)

Edited by dimitri

What a dream, what a joke, love it   :x

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13 minutes ago, dimitri said:

@Inliytened1 thanks.

 

To add to my descriptions in question:

On ego death you can consciously move the body, on breakthrough you can't. Is this still legit? :)

If you are referring to a mystical experience the two terms mean the same thing really.  The ego collapses.  

You're body is still there but you will be the Mind at that point, not the mind ;)

 

 

 


 

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