Ask an Occultist (divination,talking to spirits, siddhis, etc)

[astrokeen]

@Matt8800 , do you ask your spirit friends about the future of the world, such as what great mayhem climate change will bring about? I think we are speeding towards great hunger and misery and, despite remarkable activists trying to shake sense into politicians, nothing much will be done to have a significant impact. 

Please do share if you've sensed or been told anything.

[Matt8800]

1 hour ago, astrokeen said:

@Matt8800 , do you ask your spirit friends about the future of the world, such as what great mayhem climate change will bring about? I think we are speeding towards great hunger and misery and, despite remarkable activists trying to shake sense into politicians, nothing much will be done to have a significant impact. 

Please do share if you've sensed or been told anything.

@astrokeen I believe the climate is heading towards a catastrophe.

I also believe the markets have finally topped out and are in the process of reversing. Ive studied Elliott Wave Theory extensively for quite a few years and the markets have made a perfect bullish pattern for the last 100-150 years but has come to an end. Elliott Wave Theory says that a counter move takes 50-160% of the time of the bullish move. That means that the market wont probably recover for another 75-200+ years. 

Although this sounds dreary, dont fret about it. It was all destined and is a part of a bigger evolution of humanity and the planet. This is the reason why there are gods and goddesses that bring both destruction and then creation. Sometimes things have to be destroyed before they can be created anew.

My advice is seek love and beauty in the present moment. Seek guidance and strength from your spirit allies and continue pressing forward. Remember that you are here in this incarnation for a reason and that evolution should be continually focused on.

Im not worried. It was all inevitable. After the destruction, the creation will begin imo. It has to happen this way.

As for me personally, I just moved all my money, including my entire retirement, into crypto-currencies.

Edited October 2, 2019 by Matt8800

[Neorez]

 

 

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8 hours ago, Matt8800 said:

As for me personally, I just moved all my money, including my entire retirement, into crypto-currencies.

What's the reason for going to crypto-currencies? 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Neorez

[Matt8800]

6 hours ago, Neorez said:

What's the reason for going to crypto-currencies? 

@Neorez I think fiat currencies are artificially inflated. I do think that the US dollar has one more run up as people get out of the markets and get into the dollar and then it will crash for good. Nothing lasts forever. Rome didnt and neither will the current governments. I think people will start running to cryptos. This is just my personal opinion based on my interpretations of the markets. 

[Harikrishnan]

16 hours ago, Matt8800 said:

@astrokeen I believe the climate is heading towards a catastrophe.

I also believe the markets have finally topped out and are in the process of reversing. Ive studied Elliott Wave Theory extensively for quite a few years and the markets have made a perfect bullish pattern for the last 100-150 years but has come to an end. Elliott Wave Theory says that a counter move takes 50-160% of the time of the bullish move. That means that the market wont probably recover for another 75-200+ years. 

Although this sounds dreary, dont fret about it. It was all destined and is a part of a bigger evolution of humanity and the planet. This is the reason why there are gods and goddesses that bring both destruction and then creation. Sometimes things have to be destroyed before they can be created anew.

My advice is seek love and beauty in the present moment. Seek guidance and strength from your spirit allies and continue pressing forward. Remember that you are here in this incarnation for a reason and that evolution should be continually focused on.

Im not worried. It was all inevitable. After the destruction, the creation will begin imo. It has to happen this way.

Are this from divination or your thoughts?

 

 

 

 

[Matt8800]

37 minutes ago, Harikrishnan said:

Are this from divination or your thoughts?

 

 

 

 

@Harikrishnan I have not yet seen a talent with divination in myself yet but Ive always had a "knowing" that almost always turns out to be right. At this time, all I can say is those predictions are merely my personal opinions because there is nothing objective I can use to validate it. I suppose time will tell but I bet time will show that Im right.

[ltp]

Hello and thank you for this topic.

 

How do you distinguish between magic and false correlations ? I have struggled with magical thinking OCD since childhood and I have always tried to reassure myself that it was "just my brain", but as I've learned more and more about spirituality over the past years, and "side effects" such as siddhis, law of attraction, etc, I am getting more and more afraid that I may have actually manifested some of my fears (mainly hurting/being the cause of the death of random people if I failed to accomplish certain rituals) into physical reality, and that I will continue to do so if I do not change my behaviour/do some counteracting magick.

So here are some questions:

-Is it possible that my OCD-based fears could have morphed over the years, into actual manifestations ? Is it likely that my fears may have attracted/created a spirit or something, whose aim is to just make sure the fears are being realized, just to make me unhappy somehow ?

-Also, at some points in my childhood I made "oaths" to the Christian God, mostly about restraining from certain material pleasures, as I was feeling somehow I did not deserve certain things (which now I find silly). I have since broken some of these oaths, and this has actually led to more OCD, since I then started believing that God would punish me for breaking them. I basically feared that God would punish me by doing what I feared the most... that is hurting people, so that I would feel guilty. What are the consequences of breaking oaths, if any ? (I remember swearing on a book of prayers and on an icon).

And to finish with, a more general question:

-What are the chances of people having hidden magickal powers which they are not aware of ? What are the chances of these people causing harm unintentionally through these powers ? What should they do about it first ? I've seen you recommended some books, but I am not (yet) interested in doing magick, apart from the fact that I want to make sure in some way, using magick if needed, that I'm not hurting  anyone.

 

Thanks a lot for your answers, it would mean a lot to me to eliminate these concerns from my life, as they have basically been the number one cause of emotional suffering for about ten years.

 

 

[Matt8800]

19 hours ago, ltp said:

Hello and thank you for this topic.

 

How do you distinguish between magic and false correlations ? I have struggled with magical thinking OCD since childhood and I have always tried to reassure myself that it was "just my brain", but as I've learned more and more about spirituality over the past years, and "side effects" such as siddhis, law of attraction, etc, I am getting more and more afraid that I may have actually manifested some of my fears (mainly hurting/being the cause of the death of random people if I failed to accomplish certain rituals) into physical reality, and that I will continue to do so if I do not change my behaviour/do some counteracting magick.

So here are some questions:

-Is it possible that my OCD-based fears could have morphed over the years, into actual manifestations ? Is it likely that my fears may have attracted/created a spirit or something, whose aim is to just make sure the fears are being realized, just to make me unhappy somehow ?

-Also, at some points in my childhood I made "oaths" to the Christian God, mostly about restraining from certain material pleasures, as I was feeling somehow I did not deserve certain things (which now I find silly). I have since broken some of these oaths, and this has actually led to more OCD, since I then started believing that God would punish me for breaking them. I basically feared that God would punish me by doing what I feared the most... that is hurting people, so that I would feel guilty. What are the consequences of breaking oaths, if any ? (I remember swearing on a book of prayers and on an icon).

And to finish with, a more general question:

-What are the chances of people having hidden magickal powers which they are not aware of ? What are the chances of these people causing harm unintentionally through these powers ? What should they do about it first ? I've seen you recommended some books, but I am not (yet) interested in doing magick, apart from the fact that I want to make sure in some way, using magick if needed, that I'm not hurting  anyone.

 

Thanks a lot for your answers, it would mean a lot to me to eliminate these concerns from my life, as they have basically been the number one cause of emotional suffering for about ten years.

 

 

@ltp I answered your questions below:

1. yes, absolutely. Everybody is doing magick all the time, whether they realize it or not. People manifest placebos as reality even though they are not trained in the occult because it is an everyday thing. If we do it unconsciously, we can hurt ourselves and others. That is why I think it is important to understand occult principals and be mindful. 

2. I dont believe in a God that punishes, and neither do ANY of the non-dual traditions.  Other than you just being indoctrinated at a young age, why would you believe that? (think carefully about this) That is religious and dualistic dogma and was not a part of ancient, or current non-dual, spirituality. You didnt know better at the time so dont worry about it. With that said, in the future however, if you are not sure about an oath, dont make it. 

3. Ill intent, hatred and wishing someone would fail can produce magickal effects on the target, along with ourselves due to low vibrational energy. That is why we must transcend egoic tendencies and resonate and vibrate with our true values. 

Whether you want to "do" magick or not, you are already doing it  It is either conscious or unconscious with varying degrees of skill. I simply choose doing it consciously with a high degree of skill according to my values.

Edited October 9, 2019 by Matt8800

[TrynaBeTurquoise]

@Matt8800 What are the main ways average people unconsciously perform magick? Is this similar to the law of attraction?

[ltp]

@Matt8800

Hi and thank you for your answers, they helped me.

Here are some further questions about those answers:

1. What do you mean by manifesting placebos ? Also, what are those occult principals ? Could you make a short list for a beginner, so that I can reduce the harm I could cause on me and others ?

2. If there is no God that punishes, are there not nevertheless malevolent gods or spirits that could manifest the fears of an OCD sufferer into reality to torment them ? Could that have happened in my case ? I'm very concerned about what harm all these years of OCD could have done, and also how to stop these manifestations it if necessary ?

3. Through all my OCD years, I have never actually wished someone to get hurt; all I felt was fear they would get hurt because of me. Can fear of something happening trigger magick too ? What are the chances of this to be true as opposed to actual will for the people to get hurt ?

I really wish to become conscious of precisely what stuff I have been (unwillingly) doing in my life so far that could have had bad consequences in reality, and how to stop it.

 

Thanks

[Matt8800]

14 hours ago, ltp said:

@Matt8800

Hi and thank you for your answers, they helped me.

Here are some further questions about those answers:

1. What do you mean by manifesting placebos ? Also, what are those occult principals ? Could you make a short list for a beginner, so that I can reduce the harm I could cause on me and others ?

2. If there is no God that punishes, are there not nevertheless malevolent gods or spirits that could manifest the fears of an OCD sufferer into reality to torment them ? Could that have happened in my case ? I'm very concerned about what harm all these years of OCD could have done, and also how to stop these manifestations it if necessary ?

3. Through all my OCD years, I have never actually wished someone to get hurt; all I felt was fear they would get hurt because of me. Can fear of something happening trigger magick too ? What are the chances of this to be true as opposed to actual will for the people to get hurt ?

I really wish to become conscious of precisely what stuff I have been (unwillingly) doing in my life so far that could have had bad consequences in reality, and how to stop it.

 

Thanks

@ltp

1. A placebo is just something that affects someone physically simply because they believe it will. There is no apparent cause-effect relationship other than the belief. It just means that our beliefs tend to manifest so be careful about what you believe.

2. God is different than gods. The latter is just evolved, powerful spirits. The former is ineffable. I wouldnt be worried about what spirits are doing to you or what you are doing to others; I would focus on your fears. You seem to be full of fear and that is the biggest thing that needs to change imo. You might have limited control (or none) over your OCD but you need to work on accepting ALL your fears. The worse case scenario is death. Totally accept death and you will find it is easy to accept everything else.

3. The very act of living is going to cause some "good" and some "bad". Just accept this and try to accentuate the good by increasingly learning to project love, kindness and gratitude. 

I suspect that overcoming fear and accepting reality the way it is and will be, is one of the main purposes of your incarnation. Get that done in this lifetime. Your other fears and worries are just distractions from overcoming the fear and worry itself.

Edited October 10, 2019 by Matt8800

[ltp]

@Matt8800

I have indeed very little control over my OCD beliefs, and adding the new belief that magick can actually happen due to OCD just reinforces the beliefs already there for years.

Will removing the fear generated by these beliefs make these beliefs somehow fade ? Will accepting the fears produced by my OCD, whithout reacting to them with rituals, be sufficient for their stopping manifesting ? Or should I additionally reprogram my mind with new beliefs, that would be the opposite of the beliefs created by the OCD ?

To sum up: is magick manifesting through thoughts + fear, or only through fear ?

Thanks

[Matt8800]

1 hour ago, ltp said:

@Matt8800

I have indeed very little control over my OCD beliefs, and adding the new belief that magick can actually happen due to OCD just reinforces the beliefs already there for years.

Will removing the fear generated by these beliefs make these beliefs somehow fade ? Will accepting the fears produced by my OCD, whithout reacting to them with rituals, be sufficient for their stopping manifesting ? Or should I additionally reprogram my mind with new beliefs, that would be the opposite of the beliefs created by the OCD ?

To sum up: is magick manifesting through thoughts + fear, or only through fear ?

Thanks

@ltp I would suggest forgetting about the beliefs and ocd for now and focus on releasing the fear. 

Whats the worse that can happen? Death?

Do you fear your own eventual death?

[ltp]

I fear causing the death of other people more than my own death. Should I face this fear ? What if people die because of me manifesting things due to the beliefs I have ?

[Water]

Hey Matt, wonderful thread with lots to learn. Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions. A few of my own if you will. 

1. I took your advice and read Vampires way to psychic self defence, and it was a pretty decent read. Although I think the way you summed up how to face the spirits earlier in the thread was more discriptive and (personally) better. Why do you think the word of God seems to agitate these spirits so much? If possessed it seems to put people into a trance and then it's more or less what you see in the movies during an exorsism. 

2. Have you ever experienced any kind of possession from enteties? If so can you explain what it was like? 

3. You've mentioned getting assistance/guidence from some of these entities. What do you think is the difference from getting assistance/guidance from God? 

Btw krieters method along with yours seems to have worked, very interesting stuff. I think the biggest difference is the mindset, I almost welcome the challenge now. Thank you ?

 

 

[Matt8800]

On 10/10/2019 at 9:37 AM, ltp said:

I fear causing the death of other people more than my own death. Should I face this fear ? What if people die because of me manifesting things due to the beliefs I have ?

@ltp That is an unreasonable fear and you should process that and internalize it imo. 

We try to do the best we can in life and shouldnt worry about the future. That is an important part of waking up spiritually.

Nobody is going to die because of unconscious manifestation. 

[Matt8800]

32 minutes ago, Water said:

Hey Matt, wonderful thread with lots to learn. Thanks for taking the time to answer our questions. A few of my own if you will. 

1. I took your advice and read Vampires way to psychic self defence, and it was a pretty decent read. Although I think the way you summed up how to face the spirits earlier in the thread was more discriptive and (personally) better. Why do you think the word of God seems to agitate these spirits so much? If possessed it seems to put people into a trance and then it's more or less what you see in the movies during an exorsism. 

2. Have you ever experienced any kind of possession from enteties? If so can you explain what it was like? 

3. You've mentioned getting assistance/guidence from some of these entities. What do you think is the difference from getting assistance/guidance from God? 

Btw krieters method along with yours seems to have worked, very interesting stuff. I think the biggest difference is the mindset, I almost welcome the challenge now. Thank you ?

 

 

@Water Im glad you find it helpful

1. Ive never heard of spirits actually getting agitated by the Bible, or any other religious book. In Catholicism, exorcisms can take a long time..sometimes months. Ive heard occultists joke that the spirits finally leave from shear boredom and annoyance. Spirits will submit to higher powers though. If one were to use the name of the ONE (Adonai, IAO, Brahman, Allah, etc), they tend to take notice however. It seems that spirits from a particular tradition will respect hierarchy in that tradition. For example, a wrathful spirit from Tibetan Tantra is not going to respect much an angel from the Abrahamic religions; you would need to call on a higher power from the Tibetan tradition. I have some vague theories about this but hard to know why for sure. The movies tend to show there is power in the Bible because those movies were made in Western society, which is Christian. 

2. Yes, my fiance is a gifted clairvoyant and we invoked Hecate. Hecate showed up and fully possessed my fiances body. My fiance didnt remember anything afterwards. It was an amazing experience but the details are too personal to disclose.

3. Ultimately, everything is One. I dont know if there is a difference.

[Water]

1 hour ago, Matt8800 said:

@Water Im glad you find it helpful

1. Ive never heard of spirits actually getting agitated by the Bible, or any other religious book. In Catholicism, exorcisms can take a long time..sometimes months. Ive heard occultists joke that the spirits finally leave from shear boredom and annoyance. Spirits will submit to higher powers though. If one were to use the name of the ONE (Adonai, IAO, Brahman, Allah, etc), they tend to take notice however. It seems that spirits from a particular tradition will respect hierarchy in that tradition. For example, a wrathful spirit from Tibetan Tantra is not going to respect much an angel from the Abrahamic religions; you would need to call on a higher power from the Tibetan tradition. I have some vague theories about this but hard to know why for sure. The movies tend to show there is power in the Bible because those movies were made in Western society, which is Christian. 

 

I was being a little vague because this this experience was also very personal, but after finally being done with it I'm more open to talk about it. I can say from first hand experience what you see in the movies is very real. Lol I don't know about the backwards spider walk up the stairs or climbing walls but when they feel threatened, shit gets real. When the excosist read the Quran on me I went from perfectly calm and peaceful to a complete mad man. That really got me interested, dogma aside it seems there's more to these religions. If you would like the details on what happened, pm me. 

 

I've done a lot research on this topic and it seems these possession are on the rise, regardless of religion or culture. It really concerns me because it took me over a year of trying to figure out what was wrong before I decided to be open minded about it being a possession. I saw doctors, phyciatrists, and therapists which did nothing for me because (Not suprised) all they offered were pills. What are your thoughts on this? 

[ltp]

3 hours ago, Matt8800 said:

@ltp That is an unreasonable fear and you should process that and internalize it imo. 

We try to do the best we can in life and shouldnt worry about the future. That is an important part of waking up spiritually.

Nobody is going to die because of unconscious manifestation. 

Isn't the unconscious the primary way by which things are being manifested ?

I get the part about worrying too much though; I've just begun to realize I've always had this problem and I'm starting to work on it.

[Matt8800]

4 hours ago, Water said:

I was being a little vague because this this experience was also very personal, but after finally being done with it I'm more open to talk about it. I can say from first hand experience what you see in the movies is very real. Lol I don't know about the backwards spider walk up the stairs or climbing walls but when they feel threatened, shit gets real. When the excosist read the Quran on me I went from perfectly calm and peaceful to a complete mad man. That really got me interested, dogma aside it seems there's more to these religions. If you would like the details on what happened, pm me. 

 

I've done a lot research on this topic and it seems these possession are on the rise, regardless of religion or culture. It really concerns me because it took me over a year of trying to figure out what was wrong before I decided to be open minded about it being a possession. I saw doctors, phyciatrists, and therapists which did nothing for me because (Not suprised) all they offered were pills. What are your thoughts on this? 

@Water To be honest, I dont know a whole lot about possession other than purposefully invited possession. It seems that some people are more susceptible than others for reasons I am unaware of. 

I would speculate that when protective spirits and energies are called on, they turn up the heat on the unwanted spirits until they have to leave.

There are a lot of occult techniques for keeping troublesome spirits away, such as banishing rituals, amulets, etc. Personally, I think the most effective spiritual protection is building a close relationship with a powerful spirit that will protect you. Because of my close relationship with Hecate, no spirit is going to risk the consequences of causing me trouble.

Is your background Muslim? If so, you might want to look into Sufi protection methods. Sufism has a lot of similarities with the occult.