A hard game teaches how hard it is to love and avoid self-deception.

[CreamCat]

"I wanna be the guy" is a very difficult game. It teaches you what it takes to love and achieve something difficult.

It makes you have direct experience of hard difficulty. I think self-deception and laziness are similar to this.

It's so full of land mines that you have to learn it through repeated direct experience. To have repeated direct experience, you have to be willing to push beyond your comfort zone as often as possible.

Eventually, you become a master at the game.

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by CreamCat

[Leo Gura]

Dark Souls?

 

[AlldayLoop]

There’s a very interesting story about Super Marios Bros. The sequel, Super Mario Bros. 2, was only released in Japan because it was notoriously difficult. The Nintendo of American spokesman, who tested out games for western audience release, flat out rejected it after he couldn’t get past the first few levels. He was known to later say: “Not having fun is bad when you're a company selling fun”

 This video explains it much better than I did:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros.:_The_Lost_Levels

Edited August 18, 2019 by AlldayLoop

[Aeris]

28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Dark Souls?

 

I think all games that you can "farm" are too easy.
the one the OP is talking about is more about learning by memory and trial and error. I played it.

want to play something harder than anything else ?

start wanting to be a godtier artist.

video games got their limit in self improvement teaching, did there , done that.

my new lenses for video games is visual/ambiant now. ( Fable was attractive as a youngster and I finished it again last year, so good )

I m thinking of playing again bioshock.

Dark souls all my friends played it, it sounded too easy, some of my close friends are a lot into games, and they play a lot to all this hard thing.

one of the hard was the thing with the cuphead, almost as hard as the one OP talk about.

if you want challenge, online game competition. Then it's about being a pure athlete.

 

Edited August 18, 2019 by Aeris

[Extreme Z7]

You call that difficulty?

Here's something I posted a few years ago in my channel.

 

[CreamCat]

1 hour ago, Extreme Z7 said:

You call that difficulty?

Here's something I posted a few years ago in my channel.

 

How is it possible for you to do this?

[Extreme Z7]

@CreamCat  Dude, that was actually pretty easy for a rhythm game note pattern.

It's only 5 keys and I didn't even do that well as I missed quite a few notes back when I recorded it.

Here's someone else's video to put mine into context.

It's 9 keys and with a more complex note pattern.

It wasn't a full combo run (i.e. no miss) but their overall accuracy was still really good.

Edited August 19, 2019 by Extreme Z7

[OctagonOctopus]

Tekken against people who actually know what they are doing, it is psychic combat. 

[Enizeo]

On 18.8.2019 at 10:28 PM, Leo Gura said:

Dark Souls?

 

I came here for this

[Enizeo]

@Aeris The beauty of Dark Souls is the way in which it is difficult, not the difficulty itself. In a way it is not even that difficult, it is punishing. It rewards careful observation and mindful exploration. It is a work of art, Dark Souls is life lol <3