Is Love the Key?

[Beginner Mind]

Love is something that has come up in my awareness lately due in large part to Leo and this community.  All this talk about love has made me realize how closed my heart has been over the years.  Whether it was the absence of my father, or failed relationships, I don't know.  But something has prevented me from really loving fully.

I used to think that enlightenment would be the ultimate key to happiness.  But lately I've begun to wonder if the real key to happiness has been staring me in the face all along. Maybe what I've truly longed for above all else, is love.

Is love the key to a fulfilled life?

[AlldayLoop]

Have you tried psychoanalysis? @winterknight recommends it and I will be seeing one soon because of him (:

Also, it is great that you realized that enlightenment won’t solve all your problems. I think a lot of people get into enlightenment because they want to just get rid of all their deep rooted emotional problems without having to face them head on. 

[zeroISinfinity]

Love is what you are. This is Love. 

@AlldayLoop Your path. 

Enlightenment Will not solve all your problems? 

What is the root and cause of all your problems? 

Is it fear? What is fear? 

 

[Beginner Mind]

@AlldayLoop I value winterknight's opinion but I don't think psychoanalysis is for me. 

Yeah, the pursuit of enlightenment might've been an avoidance tactic for me, to some degree.  Although, there has always been a genuine curiosity about knowing the truth of life.  (I was a Philosophy major, after all.)

[AlldayLoop]

2 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Enlightenment Will not solve all your problems? 

What is the root and cause of all your problems? 

Is it fear? What is fear? 

I mean that if someone goes into this work and think that “they” will still be the doer and that any problem “they” run into will magically have a logical solution.

And of course fear is a big one. It’s a fear that “I” will lose control, even though my need for control is what’s creating suffering all along.

[RichardY]

 

[mandyjw]

It is, there's ultimately no difference between enlightenment and love. So you weren't wrong in the past and your aren't wrong now. It's just much, much, MUCH bigger than you thought of, than we all thought, because it can't be thought of! 

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, Beginner Mind said:

But something has prevented me from really loving fully.

Yeah, you're terrified of genuine love. Selfishness & fear has prevented you.

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I used to think that enlightenment would be the ultimate key to happiness.  But lately I've begun to wonder if the real key to happiness has been staring me in the face all along. Maybe what I've truly longed for above all else, is love.

Hehe, enlightenment and love are identical.

What you've truly longed for is a return to your true identity: as God

Right now you are a devil. As a devil you suffer from the disconnection from God's Love. But you don't know how to stop being a devil. You're too scared to surrender your devilry. So you're caught in bind. On the one hand you want God and Love, on the other hand you cannot stand giving up your devilry.

[AlldayLoop]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Hehe, enlightenment and love are identical.

Do you think you will pioneer a Love = Self movement? It seems to me that the majority of seekers still believe that Self is Self is Self. 

[Inliytened1]

42 minutes ago, AlldayLoop said:

Do you think you will pioneer a Love = Self movement? It seems to me that the majority of seekers still believe that Self is Self is Self. 

Awakening is awakening.  It has nothing to do with Leo.  You are Leo.

And you are Love.

It is One.  

But this only becomes evident with awakening.

Edited August 10, 2019 by Inliytened1

[AlldayLoop]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But this only becomes evident with awakening.

Are you awake?

[zeroISinfinity]

He is. ❤️

[Beginner Mind]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, you're terrified of genuine love. Selfishness & fear has prevented you.

You're probably right.

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Right now you are a devil. As a devil you suffer from the disconnection from God's Love. But you don't know how to stop being a devil. You're too scared to surrender your devilry. So you're caught in bind. On the one hand you want God and Love, on the other hand you cannot stand giving up your devilry.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.  I'll have to watch your video on devilry.

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Beginner Mind said:

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

How convenient for you

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, AlldayLoop said:

Do you think you will pioneer a Love = Self movement? It seems to me that the majority of seekers still believe that Self is Self is Self. 

It has been pioneered 2000 years ago by Jesus and by many before him.

[zeroISinfinity]

pls source no Just not that. 

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It has been pioneered 2000 years ago by Jesus and by many before him.

And people turned it into a religion.

One has to awaken to themselves.  

One has to become conscious through mysticism that they are God.

God cannot be pioneered.

[zeroISinfinity]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

And people turned it into a religion.

One has to awaken to themselves.  

One has to become conscious through mysticism that they are God.

God cannot be pioneered.

By mysticism you mean spiritual practises. 

Wish they all wake up. Philosophy, religion all this talk is Just good pointers. But actual "stuff" comes with practises. 

"Omg, this is primordial" "Omg, how I got myself into mysticism". Yeah I can laugh now. ?

[Inliytened1]

@zeroISinfinity yes spiritual practices.  For some pyschedelics may be necessary.  (For most it seems). But an open mind must come before any of this - and a complete lack of or relinquishing of all identity.

 

[Truth Addict]

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

And people turned it into a religion.

One has to awaken to themselves.  

One has to become conscious through mysticism that they are God.

Nope. That's just your opinion.

@Beginner Mind

Love is the key, others are the door, and you are the entire house for sure.