Which cities are at the top 5 according to spiral dynamics?

[playdoh]

23 minutes ago, Spacious said:

The group culture actually reminds me a bit of Italy, for instance the family unit seems function similarly. 

Yeah I lived in Argentina and it was the same. Your either with us or against us mentality. Really impeded individuality. 

How's living in Hanoi? What are you doing for work if you don't mind me asking

[nahtanoj]

On 7/31/2019 at 4:17 PM, Moreira said:

Canadian cities are top in toxic feminism and extreme leftism, I dont know what kind of good vibration it is.

Why are you triggered by that? That's very Green to me. Better than orange dysfunctional masculinity.

[playdoh]

14 minutes ago, nahtanoj said:

Why are you triggered by that? That's very Green to me. Better than orange dysfunctional masculinity.

Toxic feminism is the worst shit ever. Bunch of neurotic bitches everywhere and the guys scared shitless to even talk to a girl for fear of being accused of something. The men and women were totally divided. On top of the political, racial, and religious division that's the last thing we needed. 

[Truthority]

On 8/3/2019 at 8:58 AM, Apparition of Jack said:

I don't think it's a coincidence that some of the last holdouts of traditional animistic / shamanic religions in Europe were the cold northern regions of Norway/Finland/Russia. The climate there is just so suitable for it.

Yeah well we still have the Saame people up north when going to Lapland. They are quite fascinating. All kind of weird healing shit going on there. But most finnish people are ashamed of our origins which is actually mongolia. The history book and tourism guides make it seem like Finland is a european country... it's not at all

Norway and Russia are each completely different with their own deep cultural heritage

Finland is total fucking outlier in this mad world

And i'm half Norwegian

 

[Aeris]

I m looking toward newhaven/brighton next week.

Would it be ok to chill with mushroom/weed on the beach ?

Never put a foot in England/uk before.

Apparently a green town.

What do you think ?

[d0ornokey]

@playdoh I agree but i think it's moreso just a fear. i dont think most girls are like that. my cousin is a toxic crazy feminist bitch (excuse me) but she's also just an insecure, projecting, hurt human being. those are labels you've attached to a normal human expression

once you see those qualities are judgements that you've made, you'll notice it was moreso a projection

once you see those qualities in yourself, you'll realize they are human, just as yourself

then when you see those qualities, you're in a position to embrace them and deal with them

as opposed to not being able to see their existence in the first place

Edited August 8, 2019 by d0ornokey

[playdoh]

34 minutes ago, d0ornokey said:

@playdoh I agree but i think it's moreso just a fear. i dont think most girls are like that. my cousin is a toxic crazy feminist bitch (excuse me) but she's also just an insecure, projecting, hurt human being. those are labels you've attached to a normal human expression

once you see those qualities are judgements that you've made, you'll notice it was moreso a projection

once you see those qualities in yourself, you'll realize they are human, just as yourself

then when you see those qualities, you're in a position to embrace them and deal with them

as opposed to not being able to see their existence in the first place

Yeah I know just wanted to lash out a little. 

[d0ornokey]

@playdoh fair enough 

[outlandish]

The more I think about it, the more Berlin seems a great candidate for being a Tier-2 city. At least on paper.

Berlin's roots come from a city that was split in two by the global superpowers representing capitalism and socialism (however flawed that socialism, and capitalism, were ). What a unique situation that was! It was then unified, and thus it represents the union of these two paradigms. Of course capitalism "won" in this scenario, but when you talk to people in/from Berlin you get the sense of a population that's acutely aware of the limits of capitalism. There's a strong presence of green in the city, a big history of counterculture and philosophy reaching back even before WWII, and I think the unification in a way can represent the transcendence of orange and green into Tier 2. 

Berlin has learned a lot of grim lessons from the past.

It's an extremely diverse city full of people of all nationalities and viewpoints. A mecca for artists, tech innovation, celebration, progressive living, and experimentation. The heart of one of the most advanced nations on the planet.

I've not really spent enough time there to really have a firm stance on this, but the theory sounds good, and agrees with my limited interactions with the city, and the people I've met coming from and going to the city.

But as Leo points out, it doesn't matter so much the flavour of the city if you're doing your own thing. And we are lucky to be able to connect in ways that transcend physical space anyways.

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, playdoh said:

Toxic feminism is the worst shit ever.

LOL

Only a weak insecure man would say such a thing.

[SFRL]

@playdoh Pittsburgh is actually surprisingly nice/cool. 

It definitely got some Green going on, much more then I expected. 

It's also one of the most affordable cities in the country when it comes to real estate. 

[playdoh]

1 hour ago, SFRL said:

@playdoh Pittsburgh is actually surprisingly nice/cool. 

It definitely got some Green going on, much more then I expected. 

It's also one of the most affordable cities in the country when it comes to real estate. 

Yeah what I actually meant was that it has grey skies most of the time. I need the sun, so moving there is deal breaker for me. 

I read everywhere that Pittsburgh kicks ass. Only some green, not a ton? Do you live there? 

Edited August 9, 2019 by playdoh

[playdoh]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

LOL

Only a weak insecure man would say such a thing.

Osho would absolutely agree with me. He would say something along the lines of, you cannot fight something created by the mind (toxic masculinity) with something created by the mind (toxic feminism). Can only shine light on the darkness. Your not going to fix machismo by shunning machismo. Only by giving these men the love that they need and are lacking so much in this day and age, will toxic masculinity be healed. 

[DnoReally]

@playdoh Sadly Osho isn't alive to speak on his behalf, so I will make up some equally random non-sense.

Osho was a devout student of Jordan Peterson.

Osho was a MGTOW monk.

Osho was against womens suffrage.

Osho was cheering in Charlottesville.

Osho is Sadhguru.

Osho planned 9/11 in Oregon years ahead.

Osho lives in Argentina

[Leo Gura]

16 minutes ago, playdoh said:

Osho would absolutely agree with me. He would say something along the lines of, you cannot fight something created by the mind (toxic masculinity) with something created by the mind (toxic feminism). Can only shine light on the darkness. Your not going to fix machismo by shunning machismo. Only by giving these men the love that they need and are lacking so much in this day and age, will toxic masculinity be healed. 

The difference is, toxic feminism is something your mind created.

Feminism just seeks equal rights. Yet you perceive that as toxic because it threatens your identity.

[SFRL]

57 minutes ago, playdoh said:

Yeah what I actually meant was that it has grey skies most of the time. I need the sun, so moving there is deal breaker for me. 

I read everywhere that Pittsburgh kicks ass. Only some green, not a ton? Do you live there? 

I used to live in Pennsylvania. I have been to Pittsburgh several times. 

Pittsburgh is Pennsylvania after all. Historically there was a lot of coal mining in PA. 

There is a lot of Stage Blue foundation in Pittsburgh. Mixed in with Orange. But also a lot of Stage Green. They got a whole district that breathes very Hippy/stage Green. People generally seem very friendly there. Even if what you want to do isnt really their thing they will still just let you be and do your thing. 

The weather isn't always very nice in PA that's true. Very seasonal. Like I said real estate and rent are cheap. Now I remember, taxes are actually high in the area. On things like fuel, and food etc I believe. For some Historic reasons. 

Still financially you should come out ahead though I think. I rather don't have grey clouds lingering over my monthly expenses. 

[Identity]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The difference is, toxic feminism is something your mind created.

Feminism just seeks equal rights. Yet you perceive that as toxic because it threatens your identity.

Hmm, I think its more complicated than that. Maybe that’s the core of the feminist movement. However, I do think there are unhealthy parts to the movement.

For example, I talked to a girl that actually clinged so much to her identity of being a woman, and to woman being supressed by man, that she started to project all her own insecurities and problems outwards.

I talked about wanting to become an entrepreneur and that I had some struggles with it. She became angry about this comment, because for all men it is simply extremely easy to become an entrepreneur in her mind, only woman could struggle in this. 

The conversation basicaly ended there, because anything I said afterwards was ignored.

[Apparition of Jack]

@Identity Feminism can be turned into an ideology for the ego to cling to, like any other set of ideas. That doesn't mean that there's no truth in feminism however. A lot of stage Blue and Orange men (and also women) would learn a lot from reading feminist ideas, so long as they have an open mind. It will get them to think more consciously about power dynamics and gender in society, something they usually wouldn't do otherwise.

[Identity]

@Apparition of Jack yeah!

[Aeris]

Guys this thread is not about féminism.

Maybe open one.

@Apparition of Jack @Identity 

If anyone know about Brighton / ( east south along the coast of UK ) I m about to visit 2 days and take a trip there

How is the law in UK if you smoke weed on the beach ? Cool or angry ?

I know how to pass my 3g. I will only have a hand bagage.

Apparently Brighton is very gay pride.

So it should be very green but that's just my guess. Hope to find some people for party there

Edited August 9, 2019 by Aeris