Leo is Wrong About Trump - Accountability Predictions

[Joseph Maynor]

4 minutes ago, kieranperez said:

Dude. Be here to learn and not be an ideologue. 

Materialism is just flat out untrue. IQ at the end is but one lines of intelligence and is largely not even that significant this day in age. Much less so an indicator of how intelligent someone is. If you’re gonna speak from a “scientific” POV you can’t just sweep the implication of all the shattering evidence and implications done WITHIN science that debunks materialism. 

Is it a coincidence that the most breakthrough revolutionary scientists were deeply interested in mysticism? That what mysticism and the core of all scientific discoveries point to that which is infinite, deeply interconnected, oneness with all that we call reality, that 0 and infinitity is the same thing, etc.? 

Notice how you’re not interested in being open.

Watch your own energy and external focus.  The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

Edited July 23, 2019 by Joseph Maynor

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

@kieranperez 

28 minutes ago, kieranperez said:

Materialism is just flat out untrue.

 

Then stop being an idealogue, surround yourself with low iq people, and jump off a bridge

 

Edited July 23, 2019 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[Joseph Maynor]

I think first you perfect your own life and then you worry about perfecting politics.

[Inliytened1]

@GenuinePerspectiveXC i think he thought when you said idealism you were referring to reality being consciousness and not made of matter.

You were using the word in a different context - an ideologue as someone who advocates to a certain political idealogy without really understanding it.

Am i correct?  

Confusion in context it appears.  

Either way i figured you spoke in jest 

 

 

[kieranperez]

1 hour ago, Joseph Maynor said:

Watch your own energy and external focus.  The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

I’ll keep that in mind next time you rant at Leo and about the quality of the forum and how you think he doesn’t take feedback. 

44 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

Then stop being an idealogue, surround yourself with low iq people, and jump off a bridge

First off, that’s adorable lol.

Second, notice how you didn’t address a single point I made and you’re just vomiting projections about me. How exactly am I being an ideologue here?

I’m telling you it’s wrong because I know directly that it’s wrong. If you wanna interpret that as an ideology then you can do what you want. 

An ideologue is someone whose insistent on their POV and refuses to actually be open. Which is basically what people on this thread are trying to point out to you. If you don’t wanna be open to that, suit yourself. Keep your beliefs and do whatever you want. 

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

26 minutes ago, kieranperez said:

Second, notice how you didn’t address a single point I made and you’re just vomiting projections about me. How exactly am I being an ideologue here?

That's exactly what you did to butt in here.  Loaded up projections and didn't answer my question.  If you don't wanna answer it, stfu, especially if I'm not talking to you.

Edited July 23, 2019 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[d0ornokey]

IQ is 4 cuck fags 

EQ is 4 alpha chads 

lolol

[kieranperez]

4 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

That's exactly what you did to butt in here.  Loaded up projections and didn't answer my question.  If you don't wanna answer it, stfu, especially if I'm not talking to you.

I know what you need. You just need a hug.

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

Looks like we're at an impasse.  None of you want to get called on your virtue signaling. 

It's fun and games to say IQ doesn't matter, but none of you are willing to immerse yourself in a low IQ society - like the military - which mostly sucks because of the low level it operates on.

Edited July 23, 2019 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[Natasha]

@GenuinePerspectiveXC EQ (emotional intelligence) is as, if not more, important than IQ. Work on yours.

[kieranperez]

2 minutes ago, GenuinePerspectiveXC said:

Looks like we're at an impasse.  None of you want to get called on your virtue signaling. 

It's fun and games to say IQ doesn't matter, but none of you are willing to immerse yourself in a low IQ society - like the military - which mostly sucks because of the low level it operates on.

If you think the reason our society is at such a low level of development because of low IQ then idk what else to tell you then that you’re just flat out wrong dude. Look at the developmental research in developmental psychology. The data, numbers, statistics are all there.

Consciousness and a more well rounded and development of indivual and collective psychology that is more all inclusive (I’m watering this down a lot so don’t take this short statement to be my entire thesis) and is free of shadows is what holds back societies and individuals in their development. Not because they’re more “logical”. There is not a single human being that is fundamentally logical nor reasonable at the end of the day. Those were inventions made by people that came about to deal with an ever more complex, evolving, and nuanced reality. IQ is not 1000000% irrelevant. It’s PARTIAL. Not complete... AT ALL. 

People on this thread who know and are aware of that don’t need to take your point seriously when they know directly that yeah that’s just not true. If someone is directly conscious that there’s nothing material about reality, they don’t need to entertain your dribble about how it’s actually material. Materialism is a philosophy. Not a fact. And a false philosophy at that. 

[Inliytened1]

@kieranperez While you are right about the nature of reality and your metaphysics - and IQ - which is definitely not a measure of one's evolution- relatively speaking i think it's you that needs a hug here..or at least a bigger hug.   You seem to be very hostile - attacking people pretty consistently here and tearing them a new asshole where it's really not warranted.  He was having a political debate with Leo and you jumped on him.  

I've watched this be a similar pattern with you - notable example when i tried to provide some advice to you and brought metaphysics into the answer you cut me a new asshole stating you didn't want a spiritual answer. 

Yet spirituality is a core aspect of an individual's evolution and growth to the highest stages - in essence it is intricately intertwined with everything..   

A person's level of consciousness is what is behind everything - from their political views to their metaphysical views, to their personal growth and self actualization and life purpose.  It's all consciousness.

So while you may be correct in your particular assessments, making personal attacks against an individual can be counter productive.  It also could be a sign of inner self frustration.

That said - i hope you learn something from these words but you probably won't because wisdom and love is something that often comes with time and life experience.

So go ahead and tear me a new one.

I'm ready.

 

Edited July 23, 2019 by Inliytened1

[Forestluv]

“Intelligence” is one of the major human identities and a source of insecurity. I went to a psychology talk in which the speaker described insecurity of intelligence to be one of the strongest insecurities in males. He presented research suggesting that men with subconscious insecurities of their intelligence have higher tendencies to be domineering (particularly to women). The idea is that they are trying to compensate for a self-perceived deficiency and insecurity.

It’s no surprise to me that many people get personally triggered and elicit strong emotional responses about intelligence. And grasp at metrics like IQ for a sense of grounding as a measure of intelligence and self worth. It’s a core feature of many people’s identity and self-perceived worth. Similar to how some people are strongly identified and/or insecure regarding gender.  

[Inliytened1]

@Serotoninluv And that's an unfortunate byproduct of today's culture.

[Beau Lef]

Here in the Netherlands it is very hard to get healthy green into office. The more extreme, identitarian green with rebellious, adolescent type influencers and candidates however get way more attention and votes.

[possibilities]

Be what it may Intelligence is a seriously real thing, it’s after all why there’s such worry about both AI and the NeuraLink as well as why for example the NSA are not at all worried about the possibility of students in a mentally handicapped school figuring out how to break in and control all the technological infrastructure of their facilities. 

I’d personally appreciate it if commenters relayed their expertise through argumentation as opposed to mere claims of which any claim for any side can be made without reason. To the former this is where real discussion can begin, to the latter the positions of those claims are in no better position than trying to figure out a murder case with little evidence.

People who believe their feelings more than large sums of evidence to the contrary are dangerous to the innocent, or in this case, the truth of the subject regarding intelligence, it’s measurement, the limitations of that measurement, it’s applications and well I guess here, how such a discussion relates to political discourse (try to not disrupt the intelligence of the original objective of this thread). A display of little IQ on the subject will irrefutably reveal a considerably less fortunate outcome, try engaging in intellectual debate while vomiting in your toilet after too much alcohol and you’ll see how important your IQ is then. Further, if IQ is merely partial would you be willing to give away 10 points? How about 20 points? At what point does partial now turn into instead being significant for your survival, how about 100 points or even, the total sum of your IQ? How much would you pay for 20 more extra points, or in the case of the NeuraLink who knows, maybe 200, how much would you pay then?

Title (2016) - Yale Neuroscientists Can Now Determine Human Intelligence Through Brain Scans

https://bigthink.com/philip-perry/yale-neuroscientists-can-now-determine-human-intelligence-through-brain-scans

 

 

Edited July 24, 2019 by possibilities

[GenuinePerspectiveXC]

@Serotoninluv

Sounds like avoidance to me.

How are you going to develop good relationships and act on your EQ if your IQ is too low to do anything useful?  A woman with big boobs and an hour glass figure could pull it off - and that's awesome - but what about a man?

 

2 hours ago, Natasha said:

@GenuinePerspectiveXC EQ (emotional intelligence) is as, if not more, important than IQ. Work on yours.

Just because I value IQ doesn't mean I don't value EQ. 

On the contrary, all of you are pretending not to value IQ even though none of you want to immerse yourself in a low IQ society.  

That's called virtue signaling. 

Edited July 24, 2019 by GenuinePerspectiveXC

[Inliytened1]

@GenuinePerspectiveXC can you describe immersing yourself in a low IQ society?

[possibilities]

They’re also creating s false dichotomy and opposition, the latter of which you’ve already alluded to @GenuinePerspectiveXC. Priority of IQ is not the absence or devaluing of EQ, even though EQ is extremely poorly proven and is actually positively correlated with IQ up to s certain point. EQ after all requires self awareness, and to me is better understood through the lens of affective and cognitive empathy as well as metacognitive abilities. If we took those three constructs I have no doubt that would smash any notion of EQ and I’d be happy to provide further argumentation as requested.

This thread is all over the place, here’s the first comment I made so there’s no need for repetition on my part:

 

Edited July 24, 2019 by possibilities

[Inliytened1]

@possibilities So glad the greatest minds have joined us.  So are you going to measure intelligence objectively like you tried to do with matter?