Why is suicide discouraged?

[zeroISinfinity]

Suicide is pointless, comes from ego to sustain itself as dominant force. 

 

Remember ego has ony one chance to live and YOU don't. 

Edited July 21, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[zeroISinfinity]

@Mikael89 Meditation is da wae. Books and gurus are Just good pointers. 

Actually not conceptually. 

[Psyche_92]

3 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Meditation is da wae.

Then why are not all monks enlightened?

[Inliytened1]

33 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

Since death doesn't exist.. I don't think you get enlightened just because you die.

Unenlightened before death= unenlightened after death.

So enlightenment is required Now. 

"The secret of life is to “die before you die” and find that there is no death."

- Eckhart Tolle

I agree with the quote but its false that you are unenlightened after death.  Collapse into formlessness is enlightenment.

If you become enlightened while physically alive in your finite form, that's still collapsing into formlessnes but then coming back to your ego.  Thats half the circle.  Completing the circle is realizing that form is enlightenment and both are One - God - You.  But that's only possible after you make the half way point in the circle.

Its being locked in non-duality, then unlocking into duality, then realizing there is no difference.

Edited July 21, 2019 by Inliytened1

[zeroISinfinity]

7 minutes ago, Psyche_92 said:

Then why are not all monks enlightened?

Because they are not doing work by themselves. 

Use all well known spiritual techniques by yourself without following anyone it will give higher chance for awakening. 

Well can speak from my experience. 

Moment when I got sick of everything and when I had highest intention for Truth Just for Truth sake then I got full blown" experience. 

Of course while meditating. 

 

[Angelite]

2 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

You can't die. Death is an illusion. 

Death sensations doesn't last for long maybe few seconds.Depends really on for how long you resist. 

That's why meditation is important to face death before death. How else you think you can get enlightened lol. 

Idea of you die and entire movie like it never happened. 

 

 

Is it really painful? That sensations?

 

[zeroISinfinity]

They do not Hurt, they feel more like panic. 

[Angelite]

Did your soul went to other places? 

I have no idea what "to die before you die" really means.. 

Ego death is understandable to me. I think it's easy to kill your ego. Easy.

I mean, conceptual ego~

Edited July 21, 2019 by Angelite

[zeroISinfinity]

4 minutes ago, Angelite said:

Did your soul went to other places? 

I have no idea what "to die before you die" really means.. 

Ego death is understandable to me. I think it's easy to kill your ego. Easy. 

@Angelite You can't move anywhere. Observe your direct experience. No soul doesn't move anywhere. 

What actually happens is that Awareness collapses into lets describe it as your heart space. 

You become Allah fully. 

Where all of this happens literally no where since there is no you anymore. No awareness =no universe. 

Awareness =Reality 

Edited July 21, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[Angelite]

Just now, zeroISinfinity said:

@Angelite You can't move anywhere. Observe your direct experience. No soul doesn't move anywhere. 

What actually happens is that Awareness collapses into lets describe it as your heart space. 

You become Allah fully. 

Where all of this happens literally no where since there is no you anymore. No awareness =no universe. 

No space..

Direct experience as in right now? or would it be different than what I see now(?)

 

No awareness. Just "heart space" ?

Become something you described as "God-like"..

 

A dot? 

.......

I certainly never been there(that).

Okay nevermind~

 

 

**Or is it just you living life through the heart space?

 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Mikael89 said:

In that case I should be enlightened right now.

Because I have already been dead: before I was born.

But I'm not.

If you are right then everyone should committ physical suicide. Easy and fast way to enlightenment.

You have such a negative attitude...maybe that's a trap for you in this work.

[zeroISinfinity]

@Inliytened1 Off topic

How you done it with self inquiry. Really interested. 

Or was it do nothing. 

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

@Inliytened1 Off topic

How you done it with self inquiry. Really interested. 

Or was it do nothing. 

Both.

5 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

I don't understand how my comment was negative. I'm simply interested in Truth.

I was just pointing out the facts with my comment.

I get that but why would you wanna look for the short cut and deprive you (little you) the wonder of discovering it the way Eckhart Tolle would want you to.   Utilize all the methods Leo lays out.  I'm sure there are some you haven't tried yet.

[Angelite]

19 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

 

My guru once told me that you can die before you die. He said you can go to different places. 

But I never know how to do it nor do I feel like doing it either. I think if it were to happen then it will happen. 

[Inliytened1]

 

 

6 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

"There is but one truly serious philosophical problem and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy. All the rest — whether or not the world has three dimensions, whether the mind has nine or twelve categories — comes afterwards. These are games; one must first answer."

- Albert Camus

Total Oneness is Total Love.

Question answered.

[Angelite]

Aha! now I remember something.

Everytime you sleep at night, you actually die partially. If you are meant to die physically, then your soul won't return back to your body. 

It is God who control whether or not you return to your body, or to make it the end for you. 

 

I've wrote this verse in my sketchbook back in April :

39:42

It is Allah that takes the souls(of men) at death; and those that die not (He takes) during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back(from returning to life), but the rest He sends (to their body) for a term appointed. Verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.

 

 

**Goodluck reflecting for those who have experience

 

I think this explains astral projection.

[F E A R L E S S]

@ajasatya

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Suicide is an act against the work of God

How can suicide be an act against God if you the will of God?

[zeroISinfinity]

@Angelite Soul=Conciousness =God

Spirituality boils down to Union. 

There is no separation btw who you think you are and God. That is all false. 

Right now you are Conciousness. There is only God. So who else you might be. Just drop all Toughts and realize this now. 

❤️ I am you waking you up. 

[Angelite]

@zeroISinfinity haha sometimes God do speak to me through other people.

but.....

I don't trust you! 

 

Haha

 

[zeroISinfinity]

@Angelite What devil wants? 

To be separated from God. 

Contemplate this. 

Now in your direct experience become aware what creates separation. 

❤️