Is Kriya Yoga a valid path without Initiation?

[inFlow]

@cetus56 No one replies to questions in that thread.

[The Blind Sage]

5 hours ago, inFlow said:

Disclaimer - I have no idea if this is true or not.

The initiation is mainly you going to a guru which has some kind of power to activate your kundalini energy (which is dormant for most people) to move up to your 3rd eye chakra and to move it back to your root chakra (also the energy activated is very weak, because full force of kundalini might kill you). Then you can do your yoga with activated kundalini. I heard that some people can't access kundalini until they get the guru to activate it for you. I have no idea how does it work, but im following a guru in youtube who talks about that stuff alot so it kinda makes sense why you would need a initiation.

But some people are able to activate the kundalini by themselves somehow, via psychedelics/cannabis etc. or just naturally. You can't dig deep into reality without having strong kundalini going through your body. A lot of people do throw the idea of kundalini being real. But I had some interesting kundalini energy awakening moments in the body, so I do believe in it and would like to research this stuff further.

If this is true then there are plenty of energy practitioners capable of initiation. Check this out-http://wildfrau.com.au/

 

My kundalini is not hyper but it definitely isnt dormant either so I guess I'm fine without one. 

[The Blind Sage]

2 hours ago, cetus56 said:

@The Blind Sage You should have posted this in the Kriya Yoga Mega Thread where it belongs. That way all information on K-Y can be found at one location.

I deliberately chose not to post it there because this goes beyond the scope of Kriya. Its a poor title in hindsight. This topic is relevant to all the forms of laya yoga including kundalini yoga as well as any type of yoga that is trypically taught with initiation.

I will link this topic there. 

[The Blind Sage]

55 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@cetus56 That’s what she said.

 

@The Blind Sage The guru is your dream, you are the ‘real deal’. Careful projecting, scrutinize your direct experience above all else. Focus on breathing calms the mind, and it’s effect is cumulative. Introspection of self inquiry penetrates and a lot of mental baggage comes out - when it does, thought stories try to hijack the emotions. Being able to focus on breathing helps with not getting sucked into the thought stories and mixing the thought stories with the sensations. Separated, there is a massive ‘here now’ actuality / realization. Sensations begin to be realized as the Truth, or “always telling you the Truth / guiding you”. Each thought is like a train leaving you (grand central station), notice how you “get on” the trains, and end up mixing thought stories with direct experience - as if they were anymore than thoughts. You, as grand central, never actually get on a boat. You never move, and are never moved. Without “taking the rides”, the generalities of life; success, wonderful relationships, creativity, etc, all become incredibly easy without what becomes revealed as having been an incredible amount of overthinking - specifically trains about yourself, others, the past and the future. They are thoughts (trains), you never actually get on the trains. You most assuredly can ‘wake yourself up’, you are the only one involved in that. Never believe the thought derived from the sound (voice) about you can’t - it’s a sound, only a sound. it is not a “lightening” situation, though it can “strike” anyone anytime too. Try yogas, meditations, self inquiry, psychedelics, retreats (solo & group), reiki, etc - try all of it. See what works best for you. Godspeed??

Of course, I’m suggesting “not believing” what is heard, and what I’m saying (typing) is similarly, a sound (reading it). So, start right now. What do your sensations tell you is True?

You can do anything and everything, and you still might not awaken...

You can awaken, on your own accord, via your own sincerity in dedication to awakening.

 

You spend a lot of time writing these replies. Know that it really does help.

Thank you Nahm.

 

[inFlow]

12 minutes ago, The Blind Sage said:

If this is true then there are plenty of energy practitioners capable of initiation. Check this out-http://wildfrau.com.au/

 

Why would else you need an initiation. It's a kind of help to get you started on your journey.

[Nahm]

@The Blind Sage I don’t actually, but I really appreciate that & likewise, thank you. ??

[cetus]

52 minutes ago, The Blind Sage said:

I deliberately chose not to post it there because this goes beyond the scope of Kriya. Its a poor title in hindsight. This topic is relevant to all the forms of laya yoga including kundalini yoga as well as any type of yoga that is trypically taught with initiation.

I will link this topic there. 

@The Blind Sage  I went strickly by the topic heading.

1 hour ago, inFlow said:

@cetus56 No one replies to questions in that thread.

@inFlow O.K. good to know. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks