There is no seer, there is no meditator

[Gili Trawangan]

My heart is still beating fast, this has been experienced and experientially understood for the first time. The experiencer is a thought. It exists only as a thought. The meditator is a thought and it can vanish like any other thought.

There was a shit load of fear when this was understood, a lot of energy in the body, but I couldn't surrender to it completely. Writing this right now is actually a way of calming down and a cop out. I guess I'm not ready.

[Pouya]

 @Gili Trawangan You're gone when the I-thought is gone

 

[Gili Trawangan]

@Pouya Yeah but today it got real

I'd read and heard about it a thousand times, but it only really hit today, and for a brief moment. I finally understood "seeing without a seer", it had never hit home before!

[Rilles]

Just now, Gili Trawangan said:

@Pouya Yeah but today it got real

I'd read and heard about it a thousand times, but it only really hit today, and for a brief moment. I finally understood "seeing without a seer", it had never hit home before!

Do you know how you ”got there”? 

[Leo Gura]

A few hairs of the Ox's tail

[Gili Trawangan]

1 hour ago, Rilles said:

Do you know how you ”got there”? 

@Rilles I think so. First of all, I meditated longer than usual this week: about three hours on Wednesday (followed by ego backlash) and maybe an hour and a half yesterday. Most of it was self-inquiry, by this I mean relaxing attention and letting awareness reveal itself.

But today I experimented with the "do nothing" technique, I just sat down and let go. No expectations, no trying to manipulate attention, just total relaxation. The other side of it was alertness, it's a bit of a paradox but both were present: alertness and intention, together with complete relaxation and letting go of the outcome, and no manipulation of attention. Then it happened, and it didn't take long.

 

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

A few hairs of the Ox's tail

@Leo Gura Yeah but that's quite alright, cause I don't seem to be ready for the whole ox yet  though I'm going to try LSD for the first time next week, so who knows what's gonna happen... 

[SriBhagwanYogi]

@Gili Trawangan cool to hear thst had same expirience with rupert spiras meditations like there is only awarness silent being no "I" "my" others only one consciousness 

[Conrad]

5 hours ago, Gili Trawangan said:

My heart is still beating fast, this has been experienced and experientially understood for the first time. The experiencer is a thought. It exists only as a thought. The meditator is a thought and it can vanish like any other thought.

There was a shit load of fear when this was understood, a lot of energy in the body, but I couldn't surrender to it completely. Writing this right now is actually a way of calming down and a cop out. I guess I'm not ready.

There is ultimately only God. Literally, the God. When one becomes conscious of this, one becomes conscious of what is looking through your aware eyes. The seer is God but one must become conscious of this. That's the only way and I don't know what else to say. From I don't exist to I exist only as God. From non-existence of self/ego to God-Self, the true nature and identity of reality.

[How to be wise]

@Gili Trawangan Well done.