If your beliefs and ideas can shape your trip, nonduality can too.

[Pouya]

What if samadhi and nondual experiences happen in trips because we had the idea?

@Leo Gura did you expecience God in a trip without thinking about/beleiving in it before? Like, is it universal to have these experiences for example on 5-meo?

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[Preetom]

@Pouya

Very good question. The mind sees what it wants to see and interpret.

But the opposite scenario is also tricky. Its not like if one is tripping without any knowledge of nonduality, their minds are totally empty or pure.

There is always a shit ton of stuff there and thus whatever is inside comes out.

[Pouya]

@Preetom So not only they can shut down the mind but they can also bring the inside out. Then before even considering any psychedelic I better work out my own demons and have a solid foundation.

Maybe it's nice that it's not easily available to anyone. People can fuck up their minds.

 

 

 

Btw nice quote

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[Leo Gura]

Nonduality/God is not a confirmation bias or a mental projection.

Psychedelic effects are very consistent as the science shows.

[Gili Trawangan]

I can only speak for myself, but I was an atheist and a materialist all my life. I saw Leo's video on enlightenment and wasn't convinced, but tried to be open-minded. At the time I knew nothing about non-duality conceptually.

During meditation I had a glimpse of nothingness, but didn't think too much of it, I was skeptical. Decided to try magic mushrooms with an open mind, all I asked for was the truth. I literally asked for the truth out loud, that was my intention.

What happened during that trip I could never have predicted. I heard myself say many times "this is impossible!". According to what I believed it was impossible. Nevertheless it was happening. It changed my view of reality upside down.

So, I understand your point, it's a good one, but no, that's not what's going on

[Shaun]

I have solipsism stuck in my head, took mushrooms and they showed me solipsism. 

[Pouya]

@Gili Trawangan These stuff are very fastinating. I hope I'll try them someday.

[MrDmitriiV]

@Pouya Do you mean projection upon the trip? 

Is it a coincidence that so many "I am God" and alike "insights" get posted close after Leo talked about them? Of course not, a lot of folks just listen and project then call it an "insight".

 

[Shadowraix]

17 hours ago, Shaun said:

I have solipsism stuck in my head, took mushrooms and they showed me solipsism. 

Only when you dissolve sense of self

[Leo Gura]

17 hours ago, Shaun said:

I have solipsism stuck in my head, took mushrooms and they showed me solipsism. 

Go deeper.