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Has Anyone Tried Nsr Meditation?

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For what I learned it is similar to TM (Transcendental Meditation), but it won't empty your wallet.

This is my fifth day practicing this meditation, this is what I wrote on facebook a few days ago:

"Today I experienced samadhi (pure consciousness or pure awareness) for the first time. It was one of the best experiences of my life. Life changing. I'm not the same anymore. The curious thing is that I wasn't looking to experience this while I was meditating, I just followed the steps and it just happened to me. I experienced total well-being, bliss. It was a beautiful thing. It felt so very good, like nothing I have experienced before. What did it, is this type of meditation called NSR (Natural Stress Relief), which is a very easy and simple technique, that makes all the difference in the world, I can't even believe it. I had this experience on just the second day of trying this new meditation. Totally different from the previous method I was using for 500+ times, which was a form of mindfulness. With NSR I felt so so relaxed, very deep, I've never felt so relaxed in my whole life. But it's not just feeling relaxed, it's an indescribable peacefulness, so very sweet. Ha, I can't even believe what I'm saying. But that's what I experienced. I just wish that others could feel what I felt. This is a total game changer for me."

It looks like, at least for me, this type of mantra meditation has worked. I really wanted the mindfulness meditation to work, but I didn't get that deep into it.

akbal

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What mantra do you use. I've been looking for one but can't find a good one to be honest.

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On 30 avril 2016 at 6:10 AM, akbal said:

For what I learned it is similar to TM but it won't empty your wallet.

??? 

So give us the full informations please, for now this sounds more like a hidden add than anything else! 

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Who Am I to judge? When I think I know, I don't know that I don't know.

"Things don't change when they are understood. Understanding reinforces the intellect (the ego). The seeker has to make room to the meditative state."

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On 5/3/2016 at 0:35 AM, Actualising said:

What mantra do you use. I've been looking for one but can't find a good one to be honest.

It's a mantra without meaning to it and it's personal.

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On 5/3/2016 at 4:27 AM, Nic said:

??? 

So give us the full informations please, for now this sounds more like a hidden add than anything else! 

 
 
 

You can google "NSR meditation" to find their website and learn more, all the details are there.

I'm just a regular guy who tried a different type of meditation and experienced samadhi without trying. I don't know what else to tell you. It's just a very simple type of meditation that you use twice a day for 15 minutes in morning and afternoon and is mantra based, just like TM. For me, this is THE meditation, I don't have to look further, it seems. I think that what this meditation teaches is that you may want "quality" over "quantity". That you don't necessarily have to meditate for hours to get somewhere. I would really like to know if somebody knows, why do you have to meditate for such a long time? For some time, I was a believer that meditating for a longer time was the best way, but are you getting the results, though? Now I'm not so sure anymore. I'm after "quality" of meditation. The way I see it for longer periods of meditations is that you're just monkeying around trying and trying to go somewhere and that you're just wasting your precious time. Enough of that already.

If I had the money I would definitely learn TM, but I don't have that kind of money, maybe I will someday.

My apologies for my writing style, I strive to be better at it.

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On 22 May 2016 at 3:04 AM, akbal said:

The way I see it for longer periods of meditations is that you're just monkeying around trying and trying to go somewhere

 

That's an interesting point, @akbal. When I asked my teacher why not to shorten my meditation sessions, he explained that meditation is like boiling water. You give it constant heat and only after some time it will start boiling. But don't get discouraged. You don't need to force yourself to meditate 1 or 2 hours a day if you don't see any benefit in it. Just take baby steps and extend your meditation sessions when you feel like it.

Yes, trying and trying to go somewhere is the best way to get frustrated. Meditation is sometimes very counterintuitive. You'll make the best progress when you give up all trying. For a moment just be with whatever arises, gently relax into present experience, be aligned with it. If you're trying to get somewhere, that means you're resisting where you are. Meditation will teach your mind to be aligned with whatever you're experiencing, and since our minds are conditioned to constantly try to get somewhere and to improve our situation, it takes a lot of water to be boiled to change their deeply ingrained habits.

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... and that you're just wasting your precious time. Enough of that already.

I would say you can never waste your time with meditation, no matter how long or short it is.

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If I had the money I would definitely learn TM, but I don't have that kind of money, maybe I will someday.

Unfortunately I don't know anything about TM, but from what I've seen, the best teachings were always distributed freely with no commercialism involved.

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Read it all, tried it all, can't remember any of it.

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On 5/22/2016 at 4:04 AM, akbal said:

The way I see it for longer periods of meditations is that you're just monkeying around trying and trying to go somewhere and that you're just wasting your precious time. Enough of that already.

That is exactly what we're trying to step out of in mediation. The constant monkeying around and trying to go somewhere and wasting time. I usually just sit down for as long as I need to. What I mean by that is that I sit there as long as I don't mind sitting there anymore. Sit through the resistance of it and then time becomes irrelevant.

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@Jan Odvarko

Thanks for the input. I would like to say a few things if I may. 

So, TM has been taught to millions of people around the globe. I speak about TM (or NSR) because it is considered to be the most beneficial type of meditation out there. It is not only me who says this, but also the American Heart Association: http://www.tm.org/american-heart-association

The other important point is that this meditation is effortless, and after meditating with NSR for a few weeks, It has been definitely effortless. Before, I practiced a form of mindfulness meditation, where at the majority of the time I felt I was going nowhere and it was a struggle. That was my experience. I apologize if I repeat myself, but other people may not know this. TM, I can’t stress this enough, it’s effortless. 

I invite you to very carefully watch this 5 min video about the benefits and other things about TM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdZU2I0N0M

Please, do yourself a favor and investigate more about TM. I cannot recommend it enough. If you search on youtube “tm benefits” and watch the videos you’ll learn how beneficial this meditation is. I’m just trying to spread the good news here :) I’m just a regular dude that has benefited from this meditation. I’m not trying to sell anything, I invite everyone to their own your research and come to your own conclusions. 

I heard somewhere that people don’t value things when they get them for free. 

Also, if something really works and has all these amazing health benefits, etc… I will definitely pay for it. But only if it really works, that’s the way I see it.

 

10 TM benefits:

http://tmhome.com/benefits/10-transcendental-meditation-benefits/

 

A list of notable individuals who have learned TM:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_learned_Transcendental_Meditation

 

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@Jani You know, before I had that same problem. I was struggling about how long should I meditate on each session. But now that I meditate without a timer and using the Insight Timer app (not getting notified when the 20 mins are up, I set it the duration to "Meditation No Limit"), twice a day for around 20mins (sometimes I do it for 30 mins without even trying) I don't feel that anxiety and discomfort like I did when doing mindfulness.

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On 5 June 2016 at 1:14 PM, akbal said:

I invite you to very carefully watch this 5 min video about the benefits and other things about TM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdZU2I0N0M

Thanks @akbal, I checked TM on Wikipedia and watched your YouTube link. TM reminds me of what Eknath Easwaran describes in his book "Conquest of Mind", although he never uses the words Transcendental Meditation.

Personally I have some reservations about this technique, but that's not to say it is bad, it just doesn't suit me. Perhaps that's why there are so many techniques out there - to be able to pick one that suits us best.

I'm happy that you found your preferred technique, @akbal, that's an important milestone on the journey!


Read it all, tried it all, can't remember any of it.

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I did Leo's "Do nothing" meditation for 2 hours and felt this amazing sense of bliss, not related but would just like to add

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I just stumbled upon this scientific research:

Are All Forms Of Meditation And Relaxation The Same?

The study shows that TM is superior to other forms of meditation, including mantra meditation:

http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/TMResearch/ComparisonofTechniques/index.cfm

Also, I found this comment when looking for TM alternatives and I think he makes some good points, this is what he said:

"hey, if i were you, I'd learn the real thing, TM, and not get hung up about the money. it’s a myth that all techniques are basically the same and produce the same results. with something so important as your spiritual evolution, which is the most important thing in life, why play around with lesser effective techniques? why should TM teachers not earn a living wage for their very valuable service? why does that turn you off? does it turn you off when you pay for gas, food, water, electricity, etc.? we’re used to paying for these things, but when it comes to learning meditation, people sometimes think it’s not important enough to pay money for, or that it should be free. but nothing’s free in this world. if it is, you’re getting what you pay for. understand this: no one makes money off of teaching TM, the teachers barely make enough to make it, all the money goes to keep the organization going and make the benefits of meditation available to others, especially people who cannot pay the full tuition– who sometimes even learn for free. there are grants and scholarships for people who can’t afford the full course fee".

http://www.mysticbanana.com/what-are-some-effective-alternatives-to-transcendental-meditation.html

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