The DPT Mega-Thread

[Sempiternity]

@Tightrope Walker   All of Leo's videos/content are on his website. So even if the worst happen (which it won't) no content of his will be lost to anyone. 

[Tightrope Walker]

@Jed Vassallo I don't understand. I'm on the website and the videos are embeded directly from youtube. 

 

[Plip]

Hey guys, this is my first post... I have been on the path of personal and spiritual growth/development since getting clean and sober five years ago and have been following Leo's work off and on for a few years now also. I have recently acquired some DPT HCL and intend on using it in the next couple weeks. So I see Leo reckons that this compound may possess some immense healing powers. I was going to write a gig long post detailing my backstory and rationale but it involves mental health stuff and maybe a bit too personal or negative for now.

LONG STORY SHORT; I have been battling certain symptoms most of my life which I have concluded after years of research, insights etc, are being caused by toxic heavy metals in my brain. I am wondering what are peoples thoughts here... If one can heal their body with their mind on DPT, do you think that it could be possible to rid your body of things such as heavy metals, if ones intention is set on it strongly enough?  I haven't had a chance to do any other medicines since coming to this realization, possibly Ayahuasca would be a good one for this.. I do know that once the brain is fully formed then it can prove very difficult to remove metals, but I have witnessed and experienced so much miraculous healing with medicines/psychedelics that it really wouldn't surprise me...

EDIT: Apologies if this strays from the guidelines somewhat, but I feel that these metals are/may be blocking my spiritual growth, my symptoms have been pretty much unabating  despite 5 years of work, I know that this is the path, so I want to try do everything within my power to keep me on the path and prevent me from walking away.

Look forward to hearing your input:)

Edited May 5, 2020 by Plip

[Leo Gura]

DPT will not detox your heavy metals if you got them.

You should look into heavy metal detox protocols. Especially the chemical DMSA.

[Cireeric]

So is a very low dose to start on DPT still only something only for advanced psychedelic users? I have some eperience with Shrooms, LSD, 2CB but no experience with DMT or 5MEO. Should I do more higher dose experiences with LSD first to handle that or can I start low on DPT? I am thinking of ordering it as long as it is still legal in Germany

[Leo Gura]

DMSA combined with ALA will detox the brain.

[Plip]

Thanks Leo. Haven't heard of that particular chemical, amazing:)  Yeah I guess I was just wondering as I have witnessed so much healing at Ayahusca, San Pedro and other medicine ceremonies, people using intention to heal such a wide array of health issues, just thought DPT could help in a similar regard based on what you were saying but I guess heavy metals can be tricky..

I have heard that there can be cross tolerance between DPT and LSD,  heard of people using DPT and when they resume their LSD microdosing it just doesn't work, one person said even after two weeks it still wasn't doing anything. Has anybody got any input on this?  I'm currently microdosing 1cP-LSD and finding it amazing for my concentration/focus, motivation and mood, am keen to use DPT but man would I be disappointed if my 1cP stopped working:( May be worth it though from what I hear about DPT!

[Joel3102]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

DMSA combined with ALA will detox the brain.

Do you think everyone should assume they have a degree of toxicity and use it? Or do testing first? 

[Plip]

I don't want to derail the thread, apologies, but seems info is limited on the DMSA, ALA, would you have any links regarding protocols etc? Seems tricky to find the DMSA even but I will keep digging..Thank you

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Joel3102 said:

Do you think everyone should assume they have a degree of toxicity and use it? Or do testing first? 

You should test by doing a provoked urine heavy metal test.

[okulele]

@Leo Gura lately I heard you mention 5-MeO, but not DPT anymore. What's your opinion now? Did you have any further experiences with these that made you stick to 5-MeO?

 

Anyone else here worked with DPT and had some good results?

[Leo Gura]

@okulele It's all great stuff. When you go to Baskin Robbins, it's hard to choose a flavor.

[Girzo]

Sorry everyone on earlier pages for being full of bull. I am experimenting with plugged DPT, upping the doses and it really seems that this compund is resistant to plugging. 

85 mg plugged was like 45 snorted, 110 mg was like 50 mg snorted. I am gonna try 150 mg and if it's still weak-ass improvement, I will go into 200 mg territory, but no more as it can cause irritation and slight bleeding.

Also, has any one digested it orally and can share an experience? I might as well try this ROA with the rest of this compund, because I don't think I will try plugging such big amounts more than once and snorting is a no-go zone for me.

[Leo Gura]

@Girzo You need to plug a lot larger dose of DPT than other substances. But 70mgs for me is a solid trip. But I'm much more sensitive to all psychedelics than normal folk so you might need double that.

Yeah... plugging 100mg+ doesn't feel so nice.

You could always vape it. But be careful. DPT is no joke.

[Mel B]

@Girzo for me the best ROA for this Chemical is vaping. I experimented with plugging but I needed 120+ mg for a decent trip. Also tried oral but only did 75 mg and felt nothing, didn't wanna waste too much substance. Just saw on https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/DPT that the oral threshold starts at 50mg and a common dose ranges btw 150 - 250mg, might be worth trying out for research but I assume that for this base tryptamine smoking is the most efficient ROA.

[Girzo]

@Mel B I have tried 200 mg and 300 mg orally. It works well, no bodyload. I am interested in trying a higher dose. Oral is superior to plugging for this substance.

Yes, vaping is probably best. I need to find a proper way to freebase it in bulk, because I have only HCl in stock. I don't know how I have made the spoon method freebasing work a year ago, I cannot reliably repeat it without wasting material.

[outlandish]

@Girzo I didn't like vaping it, it feels so toxic in the lungs to me. I reckon IM would be good, but that's a pretty bold move and you'd have to have micron filters, sterile rig etc, and it could get very creepy and medical or sketchy feeling pretty easily. For me, in the end I just stick with snorting it, I find it's not too bad.

[Girzo]

9 minutes ago, outlandish said:

I didn't like vaping it, it feels so toxic in the lungs to me.

In the lungs? I don't feel anything in the lungs, even when tried to vape HCl. It's super clean. But I only have a handful of tries under my belt and not a full-blown breakthrough trip yet, so maybe that opinion will change.

[Leo Gura]

What is wrong with plugging? It plugs great.

[Girzo]

@Leo Gura High doses required. They burn the ass.

Do you have an opinion that snorting DPT is more potent than plugging or is it roughly the same for you?

Edited March 11, 2021 by Girzo