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[outlandish]

9 minutes ago, Shadowraix said:

@outlandish Was asking how experienced one should be. And yeah I'm sure. I took 1500ug and 1000ug on separate occasions only once. The latter was my first ego death experience. I don't go that high anymore. I found 500ug to be my favorite spot. But back then I was doing lsd every two weeks and I was obsessed with pushing myself. I was humbled for sure after those 2 experiences.

Thanks a lot for your advice and knowledge. These days I trip to learn and I am excited to introduce these tools back to my life after a long break of integration. Been like a year since I have tripped and 2 years since my major awakening. 

You'll have no problems with 5-MeO-DMT or DPT. I'd still recommend you work your way up with them despite your level of experience. There is always something to be gained from every dose level of psychedelics.

Did you notice much difference in the magnitude of effects between 1000ug and 1500ug of LSD? 

[kieranperez]

7 hours ago, noselfnofun said:

This is interesting, there is a church in Manhattan that worships DPT and they believe DPT is god.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_True_Inner_Light 

I was already planning on visiting Manahattan this weekend lol 

 

[Shadowraix]

1 hour ago, outlandish said:

You'll have no problems with 5-MeO-DMT or DPT. I'd still recommend you work your way up with them despite your level of experience. There is always something to be gained from every dose level of psychedelics.

Did you notice much difference in the magnitude of effects between 1000ug and 1500ug of LSD? 

Yeah I plan to work my way up. I think beyond 1000ug there comes a point of diminishing return. We use our sober state as the base for differentiating how intense the experiences are, but when you hit doses that high it starts to feel like over-saturation. I will admit my 1000ug experience was acid of considerable higher quality. So that might be why 1500ug felt the way it did for me but I don't really desire to experiment that high again to find out lol

Edited June 24, 2019 by Shadowraix

[outlandish]

Yeah @Shadowraix I've heard that LSD hits flood/saturation at around 1000ug, beyond which the effects don't really increase much, so I'm not surprised to hear what you're saying. The highest I've taken it is 400ug, which was plenty. I'd go a bit higher if everything lined up, maybe 600ug max for me?

Anyways, this is a bit off topic from DPT! Thanks for indulging my curiosity!

I will say that the peak of 60mg DPT felt subjectively much stronger than the 400ug LSD peak/plateau (to compare apples to oranges). But of course DPT is way shorter - about an hour after administration it was noticeably attenuated, whereas 400ug LSD sits at the peak for hours and hours.

[Chi_]

@Leo Gura    Do you think it is cool if I experiment with a very small dose(10-20 mg) of DPT as a newbie? I can only seem to get my hands on DPT here and not 5meo. My only experiences as of yet are LSD and Mushrooms (both multiple times over a period of a year) together with daily consciousness work

Edited June 24, 2019 by Chi_

[Leo Gura]

@Chi_ You can do whatever you want.

These questions have already been answered.

[Psychonaut]

Q1: What is the lowest dose that makes sense to start off with?

I was thinking of starting with 10mg and increasing it in 5mg steps.

I have made the mistake of overdoing it with 5-MeO at the beginning and would like to take a gentler approach this time.

Q2: Which testkits make sense for DPT? 

Edited June 25, 2019 by Psychonaut
Added 2nd question

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

Q1: What is the lowest dose that makes sense to start off with?

I was thinking of starting with 10mg and increasing it in 5mg steps.

I have made the mistake of overdoing it with 5-MeO at the beginning and would like to take a gentler approach this time.

20mg plugged is very mild for me.

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Q2: Which testkits make sense for DPT? 

All tryptamines are tested with the Ehrlich test kit.

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura You said one time, every people in this world should experience 5 meo dmt. Would you also say this for DPT? Assuming you prepared yourself for this through spiritual exercises high enough. Or is this substance just for people who really want to understand reality very deep

[Corpus]

I've just watched Leos vid on DPT, and he has been clearly affected by the significance of the experience. He asks if it is possible to go further and what he needs to realise is that the rabbit-hole, if it has a limit, will never really be fully reached.

The deepest insights I have ever encountered are undoubtedly produced by tryptamines with NMDA receptor antagonists. The latter add a depth which I suppose would be tantamount to peeling additional layers off of the Onion of "The Godhead" and if a limit does exist I have no trouble imagining it to lie somewhere in the realms afforded by this type of combination. 

[ElvisN]

@Leo Gura Thanks for the blog update. 

[Aneta]

Will you make a video about your experience with machine elves if you had some?

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Aneta said:

Will you make a video about your experience with machine elves if you had some?

I have none to report. (Yet)

1 hour ago, Hoyeon Lee said:

As you said about rewiring yourself to cure cancer. Isn’t it also possible to strengthen the thoughts(imagination) related to cancer and make it worse?

Maybe, which is why you shouldn't dwell on negative thoughts.

[Rinne]

But Leo

[John Iverson]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I have none to report. (Yet)

Maybe, which is why you shouldn't dwell on negative thoughts.

I have a question, so if for example you intake dpt, and you said in your video what you imagine in your experience it will become true and real.. so my question is , if you imagine it and become real even here in external world your hands will become tentacles? I will see it as reality? ... 

[Leo Gura]

@John Iverson On Datura, for example, it is possible to hallucinate entire people out of thin air and hold them as real. You could hallucinate a person, have a conversation with him for 2 hours, only later to realize that he was just your own imagination.

Datura is lethal so don't ever try it. But it's important to understand that such things are possible because physical reality is imaginary.

If you've taken high doses of psychedelics you have first hand experience of how your imagination can become reality.

It doesn't happen in conventional states of consciousness because it interferes with your survival.

[Psychonaut]

Question:

23 minutes ago, John Iverson said:

I have a question, so if for example you intake dpt, and you said in your video what you imagine in your experience it will become true and real.. so my question is , if you imagine it and become real even here in external world your hands will become tentacles? I will see it as reality? ... 

Answer:

On 22/06/2019 at 10:21 PM, Leo Gura said:

On 22/06/2019 at 8:21 PM, bejapuskas said:

@Leo Gura  I have a handful of questions:

If you become the Godhead and you start imagining healing yourself, can you actually see the changes happening or is it only a feeling? Maybe more radical than that would be a situation where a person is sitting next to you and sees your hand turn into a tentacle - do you think that's possible?

The person sitting next to you will cease to be person long before your hand turns into a tentacle.

If you do large enough doses you could probably experience your hand as a tentacle, but then it will shift back. Like it could in a dream. Stop thinking of your dreams as unreal. They are as real as the physical world. So all that crazy stuff you are able to do in your dreams is God imagining new realities.

 

[Psychonaut]

So I plugged 20mg 40 minutes ago and just went about my day, showering and shaving my balls happily. I think I need to increase the dose a bit.

This feels less than 5mg 5-MeO-DMT, which had an edge to it. This has no edge at all. I just notice that all the rings I am wearing on my fingers are "cutting" into my fingers and it hurts. Will have to remove them on higher doses. Don't want to be ripping at my fingers trying to get all the metal off.

[Leo Gura]

@Psychonaut Yeah, 20mg will probably not be felt by most people. Although 40mg is a strong trip for me. So don't get cocky.

Shaving your balls after taking a psychedelic is one of dumbest things I've ever heard. But hey, they're your balls, so knock yourself out.

[Psychonaut]

I was just being practical. What needed to be done anyways was just done. It was not like I was using a straight razor either, it was just a sharp knife. 

But hey, you gotta say what you gotta say because you are Leo. I will just do what I do until someone makes me stop, which won't happen. I just wanna lean back, drink some Pina Coladas with my pals on another planet and share the story of how I didn't die on planet earth. All the shit I do is just part of that. A funny story.

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

So don't get cocky.

I'm already holding its bits and pieces in my hand. Gonna try 30mg next I guess.