The DPT Mega-Thread

[integration journey]

@Leo Gura would you still say that DPT is better for embodiment than other substances? I have tried 5-MEO-DMT & MALT several times but I’m intrigued about DPT after rewatching your blog video about it from several years back. 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, integration journey said:

would you still say that DPT is better for embodiment than other substances?

Not for me. For some strange reason my DPT trips have morphed into realms of insanity consciousness. Quite distrubing and impractical. I try to avoid DPT.

But your results will likely be different.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Leo Gura

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura @integration journey 

So DPT showed his true Charakter finally ?I just had positive experiences with it but that was up to 50 mg, which is low dose for me. I was in full control and clear head. Maybe on breakthrough doses it will be hardcore 

Edited September 17, 2023 by OBEler

[Leo Gura]

38 minutes ago, OBEler said:

So DPT showed his true Charakter finally

I do understand insanity.

Edited September 17, 2023 by Leo Gura

[Vignan]

I recently acquired DPT and i tried rectal roa. My intitial dosage was arpund 15mg and what I felt was nothing but extreme body relaxation. 
can anyone suggest the dose i need to take in order to have breakthrough cos i have around 75-80mg left. Should I snort? If yes, how do i snort it to get 100% result

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Vignan said:

I recently acquired DPT and i tried rectal roa. My intitial dosage was arpund 15mg and what I felt was nothing but extreme body relaxation. 
can anyone suggest the dose i need to take in order to have breakthrough cos i have around 75-80mg left. Should I snort? If yes, how do i snort it to get 100% result

15mg is way too low for rectal. You will need 50-100mg for a decent trip. And maybe more.

If all you have is 75mg total, you should be vaping it.

Edited February 15, 2024 by Leo Gura

[OBEler]

@Vignan I plugged 50 mg one time and had almost zero effects so go full 75 mg

[Girzo]

Better to snort between 50-75 mg

[Vignan]

@Girzo how to snort? Same as those lines they snort with coke?

[Emissary]

8 hours ago, Vignan said:

@Girzo how to snort? Same as those lines they snort with coke?

Pretty much, but beware it will hurt like hell. If you had larger amounts you could have done a freebase conversion to vape it. But at this point insufflation seems like the most efficient way, even 80mg is too low rectally for a good effect.

[Girzo]

@Vignan Exactly like this, not too strong, and not too weak. It can't go so far you swallow it, and it can't stay in your nose, has to go deeper. You need to feel it out. I recommend to do it through a cut straw.

[Clarence]

I'm six years late to this thread. I wish I could have participated sooner. But anyway, I am so excited about this new psychedelic.

I was finally ready this morning to try it out for the first time. Since this thread, as well as the presentation video, emphasized caution, I wanted to build enough experience with 5-MeO-DMT, 5-MeO-MALT, and other psychedelics, as I am naturally very careful.

But then, thanks to my last trips on 5-MeO-MALT, I realized that I actually was the kind of person who would benefit the most from such a substance. I realized that I had the right kind of mind and the right foundations, even though I haven't yet tripped hundreds of times. I already have a very deep understanding of Reality. My understanding isn't complete or perfect, but it is significant. My focus is now on going deeper and deeper.

And so, I realized that I was ready for DPT.

After waking up this morning, I took a shower, like I usually do, and prepared a 20 mg plugging syringe.

This is the psychedelic about which I've read the most discussions on dosage, with a lot of varying quantities for light, medium, and heavy trips. I also read that Leo first needed 40-50 mg for a deep trip, which then turned into needing three times as much. This still confuses me.

But as I err on the side of caution, and as I am rather sensitive, I thought it best to follow Leo's initial protocol, which I believe was the right choice. Quite quickly after plugging, about six minutes in, I started to feel the very first effects. It was very light, but my vision started to change, I felt some discomfort in my body, and weirdly enough, my elbows seemed to desire to vibrate. 

I had read about it, but I didn’t know what it could feel like, what a desire to vibrate one’s body could be like. At that point, its meaning became clear to me. It was rather light, and it only occurred in one part of my body, but I believe that was due to my dose being low.

The come-up continued for about 10-15 minutes. It was very, very slow. I had never experienced a trip that as going so slowly. It was somewhere between comfortable and uncomfortable until it stabilized. When the peak was reached, I felt the same kind of comfort I feel on other psychedelics. It really just felt like a tryptamine, but different from the ones I’m used to. At this point, the huge potential of this substance became obvious to me.

I didn’t experience anything wild on this trip; it really was just a starting dose, a little taste of it, and yet its potential was fully apparant. I know I will love this substance. I already do.

I'm sharing my first experience in case anyone finds it useful. I will likely increase the dose to 30 mg before going to 40 and above. But I’m so excited. I can't wait.

Another reason why I wasn’t in a hurry to try DPT was because Leo shared that his trips turned into a state of insanity consciousness. This both scared me a bit and sounded rather impractical, as he expressed. So, I hope this won’t happen to me too quickly—in case it ever does. Of course, I also desire to fully understand insanity, and I understand it to some extent, but diving deeper in that direction isn’t my priority for now. There is so much to Awaken to already.

I feel like I understand a lot, and yet at the same time, I realize that I can understand everything at much, much greater depths.

But this takes time.

@Leo Gura Thank you for introducing psychedelics to us, and a special thank you for the work you're doing in this particular domain. It’s incredible. I’ve been rewatching your videos on psychedelics and your Awakenings, and they’re touching me so deeply. There is so much depth in them.

I don’t have the words to express the extent of my love for it. I can feel your truthfulness and authenticity so deeply, and that alone transforms me. The symbiosis I experience from watching your videos and having my own Awakenings moves me so much. It is so profound to experience what I have been longing for for so long. Thank you.

[Leo Gura]

@Clarence 20mg is very low for DPT. You'll need quite a lot more for a serious trip.

Welcome.

[Clarence]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Clarence 20mg is very low for DPT. You'll need quite a lot more for a serious trip.

I know, I'll get there soon.

[OBEler]

@Clarence I feel nothing on 50 mg plugged so don't expect much on 40 mg.

[LambdaDelta]

The absolute best way to consume DPT (and most other substances for that matter) is intramuscularly. It's a completely different beast.

[Clarence]

@OBEler We'll see. 20 mg was like a threshold dose for me, similar to what 5-10 mg of 5-MeO-MALT or 5-MeO-DMT would be like (I've never tried them under 10 mg).

I realize that it was very light, but I can't determine my sensitivity at 40 mg from this experience alone. The previous trip I had was on 30 mg of 5-MeO-MALT and it was a full breakthrough. I guess a similar trip on DPT would be in the 60-80 mg range.

@LambdaDelta I'd be scared of doing something wrong. Plugging works great for me.

[Starlight321]

When I snort dpt I get from 65 mg a solid lsd like trip which lasts about 3-4 hours.

[Clarence]

DPT 35 mg: After trying 20 mg, I took 35 mg the next day. The effects were extremely similar—slightly stronger, but not by much. I was in a very similar headspace, which was nothing close to a breakthrough and more like a threshold to a light dose.

However, one thing that was different is that I noticed some sexual energy, a desire for sexual release, which is very, very unusual for me and totally unexpected, as I have a lot of sexual blockages and restraints. I reject sexuality entirely on a very deep emotional and unconscious level, yet my conscious mind wants to like and enjoy sex.

The issue around sex is so deep that I can’t think my way out of it, nor do I fully understand what is going on. I’d need total access to my subconscious mind. I have a surface-level understanding, but that isn’t enough to transform me deeply. It’s still a bit soon to tell, but based on my experience in this trip, I feel like this substance could help me a lot. I feel like something happened—it was very weird. But maybe it was just a one-time experience.

I'll try 55 mg next time and keep increasing the dose gradually, as I want to gain a deep understanding of this substance at each level and intensity. I know I could handle more, but once I go deep with a substance, I find it harder and somewhat unnecessary to go much lower afterward. So, I prefer this methodical approach, even if it takes five trips to achieve a full breakthrough.  

For those interested, I might continue writing about DPT in this thread: Psychedelic Journey (Trip Reports). I'm not sure where I should write about it, but as it turns quite personal, it might be a better place.