Semen Retention and Higher Consciousness

[Moreira]

On 20/6/2019 at 3:35 AM, Chumbimba said:

Definitely worth it. I’m on day 33 of semen retention right now. Longest streak is 107 days semen retention. I haven’t watched porn in 1.5 years. I have women twice my age staring at me constantly as well as women my age. I only need about 4 hours of sleep per day and I can get through the day effortlessly. My meditation is phenomenal. I’m really passionate about semen retention because how much it has changed your life. Lol I kind of sound like a cult leader but fuck it. 

 Trust me when I tell you being on no fap and cutting out porn is the best decision I have ever made in my life. I could talk for hours about the benefits I have experienced and the man I have become. Mind you I’m not perfect I still have lots of work to do but man I wish you could have saw me two years ago compared to now. Porn is shit compared to the energy and feelings you get from holding your nut. You only miss porn because you just weened off of it. Give it 90 days at least.  I go weeks/months without thinking about that bullshit and if I do i just laugh lol. Don’t listen to those people who say “no fap is stupid” ,“no fap is a waste of time” or “it’s only pseudo benefits or pseudoscience” lmao people who say that haven’t done it for 90+ days and are desperately wishing they could cut out porn and are trying to impregnate  a dell monitor. You got this bro. If you need anything pm me. 

 

peace 

What you do with the excess amount of energy?

[Chumbimba]

@Moreira

1. Waking up a lot earlier. I can function off 5 Hours if sleep no problem.

2.Learning Spanish and really diving deep into the language

3. Actually taking notes on Leo’s videos and studying them (Still a work in progress I generally listen but don’t soak what he’s saying.)

4.Reading Daily

5. Journaling every morning 

5. Lifting 

6.  Meditation an hour per day

7. currently working on establishing a Kriya Yoga practice

8. Building healthier and more productive money habits

9. Eating healthier. My diet is a lot less shit than it used to be but still shit

10.Cutting people things that don’t serve me.

11. Creating a plan to escape wage slavery

Basically restructuring my entire life ? it feels amazing. Super fulfilling. I’m gonna type a whole post about it because people really don’t get how this shit can transform your whole life.  

[Chumbimba]

@see_on_see have you tried it ?

[Psyche_92]

5 minutes ago, Chumbimba said:

@see_on_see have you tried it ?

Just ignore him.

[Natasha]

@see_on_see If I was a dude, I'd probably do the same thing. I don't see a point in suffering from obstinance. I'd even take a further step and find a good long term partner to do it with within the bounds of a relationship. Then you can fuck as much as you want and with the person you know you like and is clean and safe.

I just honestly don't see why this can't be an option for most guys. 

[Nahm]

@Natasha Yes!

[Chi_]

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, see_on_see said:

By just addressing the actual root psychological issues responsible for the problems you're needlessly trying to fix with NoFap. 

On point

[Natasha]

@see_on_see I see your point and it's sad that so many men suffer alone in desperation when they could be happy and healthy with the right partner. This whole NoFap/Semen Retention thing just sounds so unnecessarily painful to me.  

[Natasha]

@see_on_see I agree, escaping from the inevitable is just like shooting oneself in the foot. Thanks for caring enough about others to speak up about this.

[MisterNoodle]

20 minutes ago, Natasha said:

@see_on_see I see your point and it's sad that so many men suffer alone in desperation when they could be happy and healthy with the right partner. This whole NoFap/Semen Retention thing just sounds so painful to me.  

Generally men have the burden to have to perform in life. Women get picked because of their genetic makeup. Their could be nobody to select from as a low performing guy with bad social skills.

[Natasha]

3 minutes ago, MisterNoodle said:

Generally men have the burden to have to perform in life. Women get picked because of their genetic makeup. Their could be nobody to select from as a low performing guy with bad social skills.

Yes. So again the logical solution would be IMO to learn social skills and how to perform better as a man rather than repressing themselves sexually. Would just make more sense to me. No?

[nowimhere]

I was watching a video the other day that said that the reason why monks go celibate, is because through (semon retention) allows for kundalini energy to move up the spine. Whereas if you (masturbate) you basically inhibit this flow from occurring, thereby limiting your potential to reach enlightenment.  

[Sahil Pandit]

On 6/20/2019 at 2:28 AM, Michael569 said:

Chinese Taoists believed that ejaculation in masturbation depletes the body's vibrance and vital energy. They say that the older the man becomes the less frequently he should ejaculate. If you are in your teens or 20s you will not be as impacted but should probably limit it to around 1-2 per week. In your 30s it is 1 per week. In your 40s it is 3 times a months, in your 50s twice a month and later should probably be once. Interestingly they say that a woman should have as many orgasms as possible as for her it is envigorating. 

There seems to be difference when a man ejaculates with a woman and when he does so during masturbation as sex involves larger brain involvement, glandular response,  rapid rise of testosterone and oxytocin which is followed by rapid release of endorphins. The same physiological responses are only mild in masturbation. 

So if you are going to "lose it" it is probably better for it to be less frequently but during a high quality intercourse with another human being  

 

I like this approach. As a 21 year old, i'm becoming very cautious of when i spend vital energy. Instead, i am working on transmuting that energy into other areas of my life. It's a tough road, but it makes Being all the better. 

[Curiousobserver]

I also noticed something with my ex partner, when we were in love and made love, i would always feel energized and more blissful afterwards compared to near the end of the relationship when we were no longer in love it just felt draining and put me to sleep.

[yellowschnee]

In my current opinion it´s best to just find a balance. 

Fuck buddies are healthier than fapping. There are like 500 million sperm cells in one load of cum. It has to be so valueable.

I´ve done 130+ day streaks of NoFap and went back to pmo and fapping again. 

A spiritual teacher I respect said that you can ejaculate without having a phantasy (I find that true but it´s hard to do consistently imo).

Then he said that it might be healthy to masturbate once a month.

Right now I masturbate every day and I read in one of Stanislav Grof´s books that one might potentially get oneself into trouble by needlessly holding back the sexual drive to get back to spiritual heights (context: crisis and spiritual emergence)

.I´m trying to get rid of porn and to masturbate less.

A (sex-)partner would be cool. It´s kind of hard for me to get one though. 

When I used to do a lot of nofap and meditation I tried to live a very monkly live too. I don´t know how healthy that is.

I refused to have sex with women, limited my sexual thoughts and also didn´t want to look at sexual parts of women.

 

[whoareyou]

On 6/25/2019 at 1:12 AM, see_on_see said:

Of course not. In the same way I haven't tried not eating or not sleeping. I don't feel a need to suffer pointlessly. 

But I have observed a lot of NoFappers and behind most of them there's usually some psychological issues that led them to start doing it, thinking that it would magically solve their problems with women, motivation, depression and so on. Sometimes it might seem to work because they do get some negative motivation from it, which might produce some results to some extent. But it's a false association and the root problem is still there in the background. And it's totally unnecessary in the first place. Of course it's much easier to stop fapping or whatever, than doing some real inner work. 

It's very easy to imagine results and attribute them to NoFap. But very often I've seen guys bragging about their NoFap day count and supposed results, meanwhile they haven't seen a woman in years, they're bitter, and all their core psychological issues are still there. 

Of course these are just my observations, as someone who faps in moderation and is still doing good. It's up to you. My only point is, you could get all the benefits of NoFap while still fapping moderately and avoiding a huge amount of suffering that comes from repressing a totally natural urge. By just addressing the actual root psychological issues responsible for the problems you're needlessly trying to fix with NoFap. 

You are full of shit, and I can't believe even mods fell for your garbage.

How can you say that something doesn't work, when you haven't tried it?

I have personally tried both, fapping and semen retention, and I can tell you that the benefits that the people are talking about are REAL.

Yes I tested it and verified it for myself more than once, and I am currently on semen retention. No, I don't count the days or do any of that silly stuff, it became part of my lifestyle.

No, I didn't start doing it because of "depression". And no, deep inner work and semen retention are not mutually exclusive, in FACT they go hand in hand. The more consciousness work that I have done, the more the semen retention made sense.

This is a great Youtube channel that explains it very well:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-DZ17jMfpKmi7xtaipPIvA/videos

Taoists actually know what they talking about and there is a reason why even monks go celibate.

LEO imo really needs to do a video on semen retention. It doesn't solve all of your "problems", but it helps so much.

[Germo]

Its still so taboo for mainstream, but maybe it blow up more recent years

[bobbyward]

Seman retention is one of the best things you can do to increase energy and confidence, that's a fact. And is necessary for spiritual transformation, to transform your body into divine energy.

@Chumbimba does going on long semen retention streaks negatively effect your sleep at all, like finding it hard to get to sleep from too Much energy or whatever. 

Edited August 10, 2020 by bobbyward

[Danioover9000]

   Semen retention is valuable, not just for spiritual growth, but for your energy, health, general mood, mental performance. I've experienced enough of Nofap, pornography, sex, and celibacy that this practice I can say is great for people with strong porn/sex addictions. I've experienced enough energy that I've more while being on Nofap than without. I had so much energy that I performed physical feats of strength and speed that I soon out fought many martial artists and fighters. I've experienced moderate levels of porn, porn/sex binges that I can say my body was hurting. My head and throat was hurting and felt strange, my heart, lower back and naval was hurting, and I lost most of my sensitivity in my penis while I was promiscuous. When I decided to try out Nofap, and forced myself to try out semen retention, most of my body began healing itself. While I was sexually over active, I felt more negative than positive emotions, while being on semen retention and Nofap, the ratio evened out and was more positive. I've felt actually more hate for women while sexually active than when I was forcing myself to take a break from dating, porn, and funnel that attention elsewhere. While I was not retaining my semen and over using myself, my mind wasn't as focused and disciplined. My mind did a 180 while on semen retention, and my mental performance and spiritual practices are far deeper than normal, my mind was able to stabilize faster than normal.

   What's dangerous about sexuality is when you're in the middle of the storm, it feels normal and like nothing isn't out of the ordinary. However, after I was able to force myself out of the eye, through the violent winds, and then exit it, I see the storm for what it is, and I was shocked. How is Nofap and semen retention not covered by more successful people fully and spiritual masters enough is disappointing, because the suffering I was going through would have been averted or minimized if I had someone clearly tell me about semen retention. Even if there was a possibility of me rejecting that advice, I'm actually weird enough to try out weird stuff just to experience it. It's a shame there isn't a detailed discussion about Nofap, semen retention, pornography and the healing effects of this practice.

   

[--George--]

Long thread has someone already mentioned becoming enlightened with sexual energy? By dual cultivation(sex) or mono cultivation. Tantric  or Taoist. For taoist see healing Tao , mantak chia.