Semen Retention and Higher Consciousness

[BlessedLion]

I am on day 7 on retaining my seed, however, I have begun feeling a lot of excess energy and anxiety. Almost to the point of it making me restless. I am going to try and put this energy into exercise and meditation but my urges to masturbate are getting overwhelming. Any others here have experience with NoFap/Semen Retention? Is it worth it? I kinda miss porn haha, i know it is horrible for my mind, but would be lying if i said it isn't awesome, seeing any fantasy you could imagine live in front of you. 

My real goal is to be able to find a sex partner but i live a nomadic life, only spending a month tops in a place at a time which makes it hard to establish any lasting relationships. i also live in Central America/ South America mostly so there is a language barrier. All my friends back in the states have "fuck buddies" but to me it is more important to travel, but it would be nice to have. Pick up works pretty well while traveling but gets old having shallow one night stands. Maybe i can find a fellow nomadic female.  

[Chumbimba]

Definitely worth it. I’m on day 33 of semen retention right now. Longest streak is 107 days semen retention. I haven’t watched porn in 1.5 years. I have women twice my age staring at me constantly as well as women my age. I only need about 4 hours of sleep per day and I can get through the day effortlessly. My meditation is phenomenal. I’m really passionate about semen retention because how much it has changed your life. Lol I kind of sound like a cult leader but fuck it. 

 Trust me when I tell you being on no fap and cutting out porn is the best decision I have ever made in my life. I could talk for hours about the benefits I have experienced and the man I have become. Mind you I’m not perfect I still have lots of work to do but man I wish you could have saw me two years ago compared to now. Porn is shit compared to the energy and feelings you get from holding your nut. You only miss porn because you just weened off of it. Give it 90 days at least.  I go weeks/months without thinking about that bullshit and if I do i just laugh lol. Don’t listen to those people who say “no fap is stupid” ,“no fap is a waste of time” or “it’s only pseudo benefits or pseudoscience” lmao people who say that haven’t done it for 90+ days and are desperately wishing they could cut out porn and are trying to impregnate  a dell monitor. You got this bro. If you need anything pm me. 

 

peace 

[GreenWoods]

@Chumbimba is right. I felt similar benefits but not as strongly, but that's because my longest streak has only been about 30 days so far. when your streak is more than 100, it will probably be insane.

Feelings like anxiety or anger can occur when all the energy remains at the root chakra. You have to channel the energy through your whole body (thus you can  also prevent blue balls, wet dreams and lessen urges). opening the microcosmic orbit can be helpful and kriya yoga. watch some of the videos by "sexual kung fu". 

That's one of the easiest way to draw the energy up. you don't have to flex your muscles though. The most important thing is to gently and repeatedly contract your anus, perinium and pc muscles and guide the energy up through the spine with your mind

when you find a sex partner and still want to retain your seed you have to learn how to have orgasms without ejaculation. there is plenty of stuff on the internet if you search. And the youtube channel I mentioned is masterful at this.

Edited June 20, 2019 by GreenWoods

[BlessedLion]

@Chumbimbawow man thanks for the encouragement on that, i needed to hear this. I will keep what you said in mind and stick this out to the end and see what unfolds. Congrats on your success with it

[BlessedLion]

@GreenWoodsThank you for the video man, will check it out!

[kag101]

If you don't cum, you'll get extremely horny and very likely tensed. 

[Curiousobserver]

Well this is common knowledge, the semen should only be expelled when creating life, its vital life force energy we should not waste.

[Michael569]

Chinese Taoists believed that ejaculation in masturbation depletes the body's vibrance and vital energy. They say that the older the man becomes the less frequently he should ejaculate. If you are in your teens or 20s you will not be as impacted but should probably limit it to around 1-2 per week. In your 30s it is 1 per week. In your 40s it is 3 times a months, in your 50s twice a month and later should probably be once. Interestingly they say that a woman should have as many orgasms as possible as for her it is envigorating. 

There seems to be difference when a man ejaculates with a woman and when he does so during masturbation as sex involves larger brain involvement, glandular response,  rapid rise of testosterone and oxytocin which is followed by rapid release of endorphins. The same physiological responses are only mild in masturbation. 

So if you are going to "lose it" it is probably better for it to be less frequently but during a high quality intercourse with another human being  

 

Edited June 20, 2019 by Michael569

[BlessedLion]

Thanks for the insight @Michael569! 
I had never heard of the age factor before in Tao, interesting. I am in my 20s but the more i read on Semen Retention , the more i feel retaining could give me the extra energy and drive to get the shit done in life i want. 

Also, couldn't agree more on if it is to be expelled, doing it only during actual sex. Wanking is for chumps

[Justincredible76]

@Chumbimba whats the proper way to do this? Do i simply not masturbate and ill feel the energy or is there more to it?

[Chumbimba]

@Justincredible76 Try not to touch yourself at all down there. I know urges will come up to do so, but you have to be strong. It gets easier day by day.

Then start killing bad habits for healthier ones. 

Example: if you watch TV and play video games, unplug that shit buy a bunch of self help books and start reading. Even if you read one page a day it counts. Meditation is key too. Daily practice even if only for 10 minutes. 

Three Habits you need daily:

1. Journaling

2. Meditation 

3. Reading

Keep your eye on the prize and DONT RELAPSE NO MATTER WHAT !! Give it at least 30 days. Once you get a little hit of the energy you will never forget it and will never go back to porn ever again. It’s more addicting than the most hardcore porn on the internet. 

Right now I’m attempting monk mode so that means no sexual thoughts at all or fantasizing. I try to look at women only from the neck up. I know it sounds extreme but I can see the benefit of that in the long term. 

Uncontrollable Lust=Suffering 

Good luck boys let me know if y’all have anymore questions. 

[GreenWoods]

@Chumbimba

Not having sexual thoughts at all does in any case make sure that you won't relapse.

What would you say is the purpose of total abstinence other than that? No ejaculation is obvious. But some monks/yogis also abstain from sex,orgasm and sexual thoughts. Because of your equation : uncontrollable lust =suffering? 

Would you say this applies only to normal people or is a general rule? Would you say that if someone like Buddha decided to have a wife that he would suffer therefore?

I guess you watch Gabe Dawg?

[Chumbimba]

@GreenWoods never heard of Gabe dawg but I’m going based off my personal experience.

Whenever I see a  a hot girl i get horny and want to fuck her, but I suffer because I can’t fuck her right then and there. My mind then bombards me with sexual thoughts and feelings which makes my suffering even deeper and make me even hornier.

It’s like starving yourself for days than going to an all you can eat buffet and staring at the food but can’t eat it. All you’re gonna do is leave hungrier and think about the food you couldn’t eat. You’re definitely gonna suffer. But if you go to an all you can eat buffet completely detached for the need for food you would be completely fine. Monks/Yogis don’t need any stimulation of any kind at all to be happy. That’s what I’m working towards. 

No problem at all having sexual thoughts if you can control them and not having them running your life to the point where you “need” sex or women to fulfill you. So I’m currently challenging my self to no sexual thoughts or fantasies whatsoever so I can see how it affects my happiness levels and to see if it reduces my suffering. 

I’m not trying to be totally abstinent. I’m going fuck when I want to. I just don’t want to be mind controlled by that chimp mechanism.  People have children with people they hate because of this one mechanism. Causing more devilry and low consciousness which the world doesn’t need more of lol

If buddha had a wife, i believe he would be completely detached from her so nah he wouldn’t suffer. 

 

[GreenWoods]

@Chumbimba Good points

[Aeris]

On 20/06/2019 at 11:28 AM, Michael569 said:

Chinese Taoists believed that ejaculation in masturbation depletes the body's vibrance and vital energy. They say that the older the man becomes the less frequently he should ejaculate. If you are in your teens or 20s you will not be as impacted but should probably limit it to around 1-2 per week. In your 30s it is 1 per week. In your 40s it is 3 times a months, in your 50s twice a month and later should probably be once. Interestingly they say that a woman should have as many orgasms as possible as for her it is envigorating. 

There seems to be difference when a man ejaculates with a woman and when he does so during masturbation as sex involves larger brain involvement, glandular response,  rapid rise of testosterone and oxytocin which is followed by rapid release of endorphins. The same physiological responses are only mild in masturbation. 

So if you are going to "lose it" it is probably better for it to be less frequently but during a high quality intercourse with another human being  

 

do you believe it on a personnal scale ? @Michael569

Edited June 24, 2019 by Aeris

[DrewNows]

I heard sexual energy is and can be used as creative energy. Feeling sexual? Do something creative and fun. Find something to be curious about, learn something new, etc 

@Aeris What Michael says makes sense to me, however im only 29. Older we get, the desire for sex is probably going to decrease, however, this does not mean our desire for connection, energetically, will lessen IMO

Edited June 24, 2019 by DrewNows

[StarStruck]

I become a different person too. I’m still struggling to keep long streaks. Something I have to work on. 

[Chumbimba]

@StarStruck keep pushing. It gets easier after every relapse 

[Michael569]

8 hours ago, Aeris said:

do you believe it on a personnal scale ? @Michael569

I do. At least at the moment. Many of my beliefs and opinions change with time and with more knowledge. That being said I do not follow this perfectly

[MisterNoodle]

I can relate with the chimp mind always impulsively looking at the “in demand” well endowed and fit women. I feel like those kinds of women are the ones with the highest standards that wait at the finish line for the “successful men” to pass. This motivates me alot for success though.