Everything should not be based on experience (according to Jesus)

[jim123]

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

- John 20:29

Edited June 20, 2019 by jim123

[Jkris]

@jim123 There is a difference or gap between having direct experience and having blind faith on what some one said.

[Truth Addict]

16 minutes ago, Jkris said:

@jim123 There is a difference or gap between having direct experience and having blind faith on what some one said.

Actually, there isn't.

But yeah, to stage Blue unactualized people, there is.

@jim123 I agree. I ground myself in Truth, Love, and happiness (peace).

 

[Garuda]

You tell em JIm

[jim123]

@Truth Addict You think belief and direct experience are the same thing?

[Truth Addict]

1 minute ago, jim123 said:

@Truth Addict You think belief and direct experience are the same thing?

I know and believe that they're the same thing. It's tricky, but nevertheless true.

Edited June 19, 2019 by Truth Addict

[jim123]

3 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

I know and believe that they're the same thing. It's tricky, but nevertheless true.

What have you smoked? Well, they're not the same thing. I can believe that it will rain tomorrow, but I'm not experiencing any rain right now.

[Truth Addict]

@jim123 ?

I don't smoke at all.

You're right. I think we have different concepts of the same words.

I remove the past and future from my equations.

Belief in the present moment can equal direct experience. This should sound more accurate, I guess.

Edited June 19, 2019 by Truth Addict

[Aaron p]

28 minutes ago, Truth Addict said:

Actually, there isn't.

But yeah, to stage Blue unactualized people, there is.

@jim123 I agree. I ground myself in Truth, Love, and happiness (peace).

 

Word

[Jkris]

@Truth Addict Can you make a person realize the taste of sugar who never tasted it with words ?

There is an enarmous gap between theory and practicals.Thats why practical experience is required to understand what was read in theory.

Any how I am not interested and don't know about the spiral dynamics stages etc. 

[Truth Addict]

@Jkris Is there another "person" to realise the taste of sugar in the first place? How can I talk about the direct experience of something that I cannot experience? Do you see the irony here? I only truly know the present moment. And even saying that is already too much. Is there anything beside/outside direct experience?