How to make LSD trip lead to ego-death experience?

[Leonid]

Hello everyone!

I have 170 ug of LSD, and a couple weeks ahead of the next trip. Backstory - I tried half of that couple days before, and was able to almost sustain that blissful and aware state that LSD provides, by meditating 40+ minutes a day. 

   I have had a non-dual experience when sober, and am now able to sustain thought-free state almost 50% of the day. I would say I'm in 580 LOC according to Ramaji's book, which means I'm not in non-duality, but may be there if I would be able to sustain thought-free state all day and surrender the ego. 

   So, the question is, will 170 ug of high quality LSD be enought to put me through a couple levels of consciousness until I can actually reach 600+ and feel non-dual state of awareness for extended periods of time? Maybe even try to stabilize there 

   If yes, what should I do before the trip to achieve that? Meditate for 2 hours a day? For 4 hours a day? Read books about non-duality before the trip? Any help or advice from psychonauts or spiritually advanced people would be greately appreciated, thanks. 

[OctagonOctopus]

Surrender, surrender, surrender. Give in to it all, give in to the substance, let it consume you, and watch what happens. 

Meditation and reading are for sure good ideas, also psycho-analyzing yourself and inquiring into questions about your true nature. 

[Leonid]

@OctagonOctopus oh thanks bro, yeah I mean, but there is this stigma about non-duality, being sober we cannot really ever accept even the idea that we are not our body. It almost feels like wishy-washy thinking from ego perspective, and that's what scared the shit out of me when I experienced it for the first time, because I just could not accept the idea that I'm every person I see, and every non-living object I see, so radical of idea it is. Takes enormous open-mindedness. 

  Thanks for reply tho, I thought about analysing my belief system, but IMO to really see through it takes a lot of awareness

[OctagonOctopus]

@Leonid

The more you experience it the easier it will be to accept. Its like going to the gym, the more you go the more you accept the pain of working out. Of course if you don't feel you are ready to go back then wait, there is no rush. 

How do you ever expect to gain that awareness if you never do the analysis?

[Leonid]

@OctagonOctopus that's a good point. I mean, I've kinda tried to do it when I was reading Thomas Campbell's 'My big TOE', but it went well over my head unfortunately. 

   I think I'm ready for the experience, cause I mean, you either develop your consciousness or you stagnate. I don't want to be stuck on that level as I intuitively feel there is just SO much more. Been interested in this stuff from age 8-9 I believe. 

[ElvisN]

@Leonid If you want to experience ego death on LSD

I would encourage you to take higher dosages of LSD

I would also encourage you to take a few hits of cannabis during the come up. Cannabis has an interesting amplification effect on LSD

[Nahm]

@Leonid Notice what changes, and what does not. 

[Leonid]

@ElvisN Yeah thanks for the advice. Although cannabis with lsd is associated with high chance of bad trip 

[ElvisN]

13 hours ago, Leonid said:

@ElvisN Yeah thanks for the advice. Although cannabis with lsd is associated with high chance of bad trip 

@Leonid  That's the point. Surrender to the experience. Allow it to purify you.

[outlandish]

I would not recommend combining LSD with cannabis, unless you're very comfortable with cannabis. It's a real wild card, and frequently is an ingredient mentioned in anxious/paranoid trips. It does intensify the trip, but not necessarily in the right way. It can be confusing and complicate things, so I tend to recommend steering clear.

I would recommend a higher dose if possible. 

I don't recommend pursuing an ego death overtly. It's hard for an ego to die whilst it's grasping for an ego death. It's a tricky thing, to seek without seeking. Maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. Be open to it, but don't expect it.

Surrender, release into the absolute stillness at bottom of consciousness. Dwell in that space without resistance, and allow to unfold what will. 

[Consilience]

On 6/13/2019 at 8:45 AM, ElvisN said:

@Leonid If you want to experience ego death on LSD

I would encourage you to take higher dosages of LSD

I would also encourage you to take a few hits of cannabis during the come up. Cannabis has an interesting amplification effect on LSD

It does with mushrooms as well.

 

Also though @outlandish makes a good point.

Edited June 15, 2019 by Consilience