So there is no war to fight

[Aakash]

There is no war to fight 

not the war against unconscious people 

not the crusade of enlightenment 

not the war against terrorism or drugs 

not the war against science 

these were all wars created by my ego to feel special 

everything’s fine, but I can create something not make something better by declaring war ? 

[Mu_]

22 minutes ago, Aakash said:

There is no war to fight 

not the war against unconscious people 

not the crusade of enlightenment 

not the war against terrorism or drugs 

not the war against science 

these were all wars created by my ego to feel special 

everything’s fine, but I can create something not make something better by declaring war ? 

Yeah I would agree with the generL gist of this. 

[Aakash]

So the truth itself is perfection it’s just about being fine with it ? 

Your telling me, there is no war you want to face 

and secondly 

what is the nuanced of this, that makes what I say so general ? 

[Mu_]

25 minutes ago, Aakash said:

So the truth itself is perfection it’s just about being fine with it ? 

Your telling me, there is no war you want to face 

and secondly 

what is the nuanced of this, that makes what I say so general ? 

I’m ready to fight a war that is necessary or invades my home. It’s general because it’s generally true. Sorry no exact recipe for what you want to know. 

[Mu_]

The way I read your quote was you want to eliminate going to war as in approaching things with a attitude of aggressiveness and or a belief that theres a negative/problem/enemy/no-self at the other end. And yes almost 100%.  I like to leave a little possibility for what I don’t know or understand. 

[Aakash]

Yeah I don’t want to go to war if there is no need to and I’m doing it for a point of ego. I once as a child was naive to believe it possible and over time the vision has become corrupted and hijacked by my ego. There was a time when it was genuine out of pure love for the world. As I grew older I unconsciously demonised as we all do and has left it’s mark. So I would like to know whether it is okay for me to go to change things, now it’s been corrupt, it’s true that I have a more nuanced approach with things now and therefore has caused me confusion such as 

do I first need to be enlightened before I can cause change 

[Mu_]

1 hour ago, Aakash said:

Yeah I don’t want to go to war if there is no need to and I’m doing it for a point of ego. I once as a child was naive to believe it possible and over time the vision has become corrupted and hijacked by my ego. There was a time when it was genuine out of pure love for the world. As I grew older I unconsciously demonised as we all do and has left it’s mark. So I would like to know whether it is okay for me to go to change things, now it’s been corrupt, it’s true that I have a more nuanced approach with things now and therefore has caused me confusion such as 

do I first need to be enlightened before I can cause change 

Thank you for sharing that. What is it you want to change and who’s permission do you need to do it?  Your free to make a difference where you see fit. Listen to your heart. Stop waiting and looking for the rules in life (enlightenment/absolute) in order to live your life and go with your heart or desire. 

That’s like waiting on Jesus to resurrect or god to descend and hand you the Ten Commandments before you learn and observe about life and wait on getting a job. Don’t be afraid gods not going to hunt you down if your not living every word out of the Bible or Buddha’s or Leo’s mouth. ? you

[Aakash]

I want to change the way people see the world. I want them to see it as a magical place where it’s actually their imagination that is the boundary of limitations. The way I think this possible is to get with people who are able to complexly think about the worlds issues and find a solution to them. In-spirit-ation. I want people to understand that it’s only by dipping into the realms of impossible that we ever see what is possible. I want people to aim higher with what they could do with their lives. 

Like bro I imagined one day I will know if it’s god or atoms that made the world and here I am with an answer. 

I don’t need anyone’s permission, but I want to do it from my best place and thens when I’ve understood deeply about the universe. So I sit idolly and wait for the answer via the practices but it means i can not plan. If I plan now it means it won’t be marvellous design. 

But if it is not my duty when If I became enlightened. Then I would know this was out of ego and pure intention to Be someone. And it’s simple really I guess I want it to be picture perfect.

it has to be to let people know everyone has it in them to be a Gandhi, a Jesus, a Martin Luther King. It don’t matter who you are, so I asked myself. What’s the hardest thing anyone can do in their life ?, the hardest thing is change the world. It wasn’t ego at first, it turned corrupted when I was told it’s not possible by my friends, by the people around me.  

Edited June 6, 2019 by Aakash

[Leo Gura]

War is a very complex thing. Do not boil it down to simply ego.

You must both:

1) Understand the uselessness of war.

2) Understand the necessity of war.

When a tyrant has captured your country and enslaved half your people, you will understand the necessity of war.

[Aakash]

@Leo Gura I didn’t understood what you meant. But there’s a fundamental problem I have before that 

I’m saying that is the war really only happening because I’ve said that this is a problem and it needs to be solved immediately. But if I was enlightened would I just say there’s no such thing as war and let what ever happen, happen not because it’s infinite love of god (because you are god at this point consciously) it’s just life playing out, everything’s fine. 

Or like will I still say, no this is a serious problem that needs to be fixed ASAP.

like it’s no joke, people don’t use their imagination. It slowly dwindles away the older you get. 

Edited June 6, 2019 by Aakash

[Mu_]

1 hour ago, Aakash said:

I want to change the way people see the world. I want them to see it as a magical place where it’s actually their imagination that is the boundary of limitations. The way I think this possible is to get with people who are able to complexly think about the worlds issues and find a solution to them. In-spirit-ation. I want people to understand that it’s only by dipping into the realms of impossible that we ever see what is possible. I want people to aim higher with what they could do with their lives. 

Like bro I imagined one day I will know if it’s god or atoms that made the world and here I am with an answer. 

I don’t need anyone’s permission, but I want to do it from my best place and thens when I’ve understood deeply about the universe. So I sit idolly and wait for the answer via the practices but it means i can not plan. If I plan now it means it won’t be marvellous design. 

But if it is not my duty when If I became enlightened. Then I would know this was out of ego and pure intention to Be someone. And it’s simple really I guess I want it to be picture perfect.

it has to be to let people know everyone has it in them to be a Gandhi, a Jesus, a Martin Luther King. It don’t matter who you are, so I asked myself. What’s the hardest thing anyone can do in their life ?, the hardest thing is change the world. It wasn’t ego at first, it turned corrupted when I was told it’s not possible by my friends, by the people around me.  

Start with the things that are coming with a good intention on your part.  Take each one step by step until they are in action, learn and observe along the way.  You honestly sound like myself and my intentions and wants and needing rules to know how to live, before living.  Dont be afraid to make mistakes, keep learning and being open to knowledge, but really look deeply at it and find your own understanding through experience, practice, and masters who've come before you.  Your it man, so its up to you what you want to do.  Stop trying to solve yourself out of the equation because of some idea of No-Self being the correct rule that has to happen in order to be in line with Truth, and then once thats in order you can then safely and correctly live.  Its a trap.

[Leo Gura]

16 hours ago, Aakash said:

But if I was enlightened would I just say there’s no such thing as war and let what ever happen, happen not because it’s infinite love of god (because you are god at this point consciously) it’s just life playing out, everything’s fine.

This would be a big mistake.

War is a real thing (as part of the dream). And sometimes it requires action from you, depending on the situation.

Just because you're enlightened does not mean you become immune to survival threats.

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Or like will I still say, no this is a serious problem that needs to be fixed ASAP.

Sometimes, yes. Depends on the details of the situation.

Some wars are aggressive and unnecessary. Some wars are defensive and prevent even greater damage in the future.

For example, letting Hitler conquer Europe and execute all the Jews would have been a mistake (relative to human life).

You have to be careful not to conflate relative and absolute matters. This requires nuance. Simplistic solutions such as: no war ever, will actually result in greater evil. Violence must be done consciously. Which is very tricky to pull off.

This is the problem of good and fair policing and justice. The process is easily corrupted by devils. But a world with 7 billion egos and zero police cannot work.

[CreamCat]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

When a tyrant has captured your country and enslaved half your people, you will understand the necessity of war.

Like north korea?

[Aakash]

@Leo Gura ok kkkk, wow that’s difficult , very very difficult, I’m not even sure that’s possible to pull off. 

For example, your version of good in this case would be anything that harms the greater diversity of life itself. So choosing the wage war against certain humans is fine. 

But this is only possible at way higher conscious, like very high. That’s far away if that’s the case. 

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You have to be careful not to conflate relative and absolute matters

So your saying that absolute is regardless such as the greater good of diversity (that you’ve become consciousness of) 

and that the relativity is to follow, but the mechanisms by which the problems are solved are judged to be good or bad in the correct way - consciously. As one surviving unit, aka as a whole not a fraction. 

So relativity will only mirror absolutes in a way, they will never be solved by the simplicity of the absolutes. This is what old heretics tried doing, like ghandi with putting down his weapons and sitting. It simply wouldn’t work in all case scenarios? 

[Nahm]

A thought of war is not a war. A thought of war is already violence. 

How are you feeling?

Why not be attentive to that? 

Why think of war in the first place? 

Talking about catalysts for practices is not practices. 

The war within marches on, while the attention remains on the war without.

 

”There is no war to fight”....where is your focus? On War. Why? Emotional avoidance. The mind like to fool us by “not” thinking of a specific thing. While of course you’re getting bent over, thinking about that exact thing. 

Meditation is The Way.

[Shadowraix]

8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You have to be careful not to conflate relative and absolute matters

This so much. "There is absolute truth and relative truth, beware of half-truths.", "Keep your mind ever on the star, but let your eyes watch over your footsteps, lest you fall into the mire by reason of your upward gaze." - The Kyballion.

Two sides of the same coin. It is up to you to figure out how you want to reconcile them in your life.

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Shadowraix said:

"There is absolute truth and relative truth, beware of half-truths.", "Keep your mind ever on the star, but let your eyes watch over your footsteps, lest you fall into the mire by reason of your upward gaze." - The Kyballion.

Excellent quote.

Heed this wisdom.