why are we god trying to be human and not the opposite

[ColdFacts]

I have seen a lot of leos videos and posts here and i would like a answer to this problem, which i can't find. Because anything you use for one side of the argument you can use for the other as well. All i can see behind those assumptions is the desire to deny or somehow avoid the responsibility of having unfulfilled dreams and desires.

EDIT: I wanted to add that whatever the case is, it is a failure unless it was intended that we somehow can know or be either god or human, and if that is the case then you're supposed to be neither which is just worse or better?

Edited June 3, 2019 by ColdFacts

[Bluff]

You won't find the answer, because the question doesn't make sense. You got something wrong in your concept of how the universe works. 

God is not trying to be human. God doesn't have to try or be anything minor than God itself.. God is the Everythingness. Humans are part of God - form of the formless. 

If you want, it is the opposite! Humans are trying to be God, by going the spiritual path. And as they will see; they always were and will be God. 

Edited June 3, 2019 by Bluff

[ColdFacts]

1 minute ago, Bluff said:

You won't find the answer, because the question doesn't make sense. You got something wrong in your concept of how the universe works. 

God is not trying to be human. God doesn't have to try or be anything minor than God itself.. God is the Everythingness. Humans are part of God (what ist everything). 

If you want, it is the opposite! Humans are trying to be God, by going the spiritual path. And as they will see; they always were and will be God. 

This entire comment breaks down if you reread my post.

[Bluff]

23 minutes ago, ColdFacts said:

Because anything you use for one side of the argument you can use for the other as well. 

Because of this? 

[ColdFacts]

Just now, Bluff said:

Because of this? 

It's the edit part, what i mean is that some people think and die thinking they were humans so it's a failure, this is just one of many more reasons you can extract from this.

[Inliytened1]

@ColdFacts God is completely unlimited.  Guess what that includes? Limitation.  By being your persepctive, or any formed perspective, you are being God in a limited form.  It doesn't mean you arent God simultaneously.  See the elegance in this design?

Now you can handwave this off as a belief.  Im not presenting this to you as a belief.  You can discover it for yourself.

 

Edited June 3, 2019 by Inliytened1

[ColdFacts]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

@ColdFacts God is completely unlimited.  Guess what that includes? Limitation.  By being your persepctive, or any formed perspective, you are being God in a limited form.  It doesn't mean you arent God simultaneously.  See the elegance in this design?

This is a very personal way of seeing this situation and will never apply to almost anyone else.

[Inliytened1]

@ColdFacts look at my edit.  

[ColdFacts]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

@ColdFacts look at my edit.  

As i said this to the other person above, there are people who thinking and dying thinking they were only human and this is just one of many more reasons why this is wrong.

[Bluff]

4 minutes ago, ColdFacts said:

It's the edit part

I replied before you edited

33 minutes ago, ColdFacts said:

unless it was intended that we somehow can know or be either god or human

You are both. God and human, at the same time. You can see this. It's a question of perspective. Drop the limitation of human perspective and you'll see its all God. 

[ColdFacts]

Just now, Bluff said:

I replied before you edited

You are both. God and human, at the same time. You can see this. It's a question of perspective. Drop the limitation of human perspective and you'll see its all God. 

Now we are talking, but no you're not all god same reason could apply to being human, but if we are exactly half god then it makes sense.

[Inliytened1]

@ColdFacts Absolutely there are folks who never Awaken to themselves.  They die completely "assleep".   And that's a shame but it is what it is.  It doesn't negate anything.  

All i can do is my part which is to present to you the way it is.  You can dispute and argue with me all you want.  It doesn't matter.  You can become conscious of the Truth if you so desire.  

 

[ColdFacts]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

@ColdFacts Absolutely there are folks who never Awaken to themselves.  They die completely "assleep".   And that's a shame but it is what it is.  It doesn't negate anything.  

All i can do is my part which is to present to you the way it is.  You can dispute and argue with me all you want.  It doesn't matter.  You can become conscious of the Truth if you so desire.  

 

See that's selfish thinking, assuming that also god has given such a solution to everyone else and that is just wrong.

[Inliytened1]

@ColdFacts Look at a finger on your hand.  You see it as a finger right? Now look at the finger but shift your perspective or consciousness and see it as the hand itself.

This is the magic of God.  You can be both simultaneously.  

[Bluff]

God is consciousness. No other consciousness then the consciousness living in and through humans. The God-consciousness just is pure

[ColdFacts]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@ColdFacts Look at a finger on your hand.  You see it as a finger right? Now look at the finger but shift your perspective or consciousness and see it as the hand itself.

This is the magic of God.  You can be both simultaneously.  

We are going off topic, but as i was commenting with the other person being a half god , exactly a half god is what makes sense everything else appears like a bad failure.

Edited June 3, 2019 by ColdFacts

[Inliytened1]

@ColdFacts I'm trying to show you that no, It's still the whole thing.  You are still all of God.  But if that makes it easier to grasp for you right now that's fine.  You still have a lot of work ahead.  That's not a knock either.

Edited June 3, 2019 by Inliytened1

[ColdFacts]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

@ColdFacts I'm trying to show you that no? It's still the whole thing.  You are still all of God.  But if that makes it easier to grasp for you right now that's fine.  You still have a lot of work ahead.  That's not a knock either.

If you don't use logic only personal experience and personal feelings then whatever you say about god has absolutely no difference(actually worse) than classic religion.

[Bluff]

8 minutes ago, ColdFacts said:

exactly a half god is what makes sense

Maybe it is better for you to see it in a hierarchy. A hierarchy of pureness, going full circle, where every level of consciousness is part of the higher ones. Where God is the absolute, limiting itself. But also giving the opportunity of dropping the limitations

 

Edit: See.. Don't you separate God from yourself in your concept? Doesn't your teacher tell you, that you are God? Why not accept this and try to see it? 

Edited June 3, 2019 by Bluff

[ColdFacts]

Just now, Bluff said:

Maybe it is better for you to see it in a hierarchy. A hierarchy of pureness, going full circle, where every level of consciousness is part of the higher ones. Where God is the absolute, limiting itself. But also giving the opportunity of dropping the limitations

It's what is more universally accepted, because if things only work in some place and not others, some logic here but not there, then you should stick to classic religions why bother with this.