Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet at a time

[ivankiss]

What's your rush now, everyone will have his day to die.

 

I see an increasing interest in death on this forum. You have no idea what the hell you're talkin' 'bout. No clue what you wish for. Death is not supposed to be chased down or forced. Death is to be noticed. Become aware of. Transcended. 

If done the wrong way, while the heart is not open enough, ego not integrated - there is no way back. You will not be God. You will be nothing. And you will not know about it. You'll probably reincarnate as an ant. Or a chimp.

You will not ascend. 

Thinking you'll become God if you kill yourself is ridiculous. Delusional. Psychotic. 

There is a great difference between dissociation and detachment. 

Someone with dementia is not attached at all. Identifies with no thing. No self, whatsoever. Wouldn't call them enlightened tho, would you? 

If anyone told you they do not have a self - they lied to your face.

Big time.

Ego can be barely noticed. Integrated. 

But you cannot experience shit without it. Zero. Nothing. You wouldn't be able to function or make any distinctions, at all. 

Killing the conceptual self leads to actual, physical death. Which is beyond any horror you can possibly imagine. 

The conceptual is the actual.  

So stop feeding yourself horseshit - acting all suicidal, thinking it's cool. You are fucking with something you cannot comprehand. 

That which never lived cannot be killed. Can have a terrifying experience of death tho. And then reincarnate as a fish. Don't be stupid, idiot. 

Let it happen naturally, when time comes. Stop wishing for what you could not handle. Let alone survive and come back to tell all about it to your "enlightened" friends. 

Learn how to love unconditionally and be present every moment of your god given life. That's what real enlightenment is about.

Ground yourself into your human form. Integrate. Don't use death and enlightenment as an excuse for your inability to love yourself. That's not masterful. That's cowardly.

Far from grace.

 

Thank me later for saving your life. Or don't, and go be a fish.

 

If you choose to pull the trigger, should your drama prove sincere - do it somewhere far away from here. 

 

( a perfect circle ❤ )

Edited May 29, 2019 by ivankiss

[ColdFacts]

Well said, but i fear to deaf ears. I mean many people think they can buy enlightenment with some substance, so yeah, goes to show about their progress.

[Bill W]

Love this thanks. Seen some of your other posts as they go straight over my head but this one I feel the love. Thank you. 

[ivankiss]

@Bill W

Lots of my posts fly over my own head  but I sure have posted even more heart centered stuff.

I aim to nudge with this one.

Thanks!

@ColdFacts No shortcuts. Substance can give a glimpse or two, dissolve blockage. But it all comes down to grounding and integration. Which is ongoing and constant. That is how real mastery is achieved. 

Much love.

[DrewNows]

2 hours ago, ivankiss said:

Thinking you'll become God if you kill yourself is ridiculous. Delusional. Psychotic. 

There is a great difference between dissociation and detachment. 

The danger in describing/preaching the Truth as if it can be attained in “time” and isn’t already there ready to be embraced ❤️

And in reflection it’s only dangerous when in an overly serious mind unaware of their own attempt to escape life 

Edited May 28, 2019 by DrewNows

[Shaun]

So if someone commits suicide in an attempt to escape suffering, does that mean they are in for some serious shit?

[Nahm]

@Shaun No, it means they’re afraid of their self. 

[Joker_Theory]

Wowww. You don't want to do that!!

Can we still push ourselves like if i meditate more and do self-inquiry, i wont get into a bad situation like that?

How can we integrate stuff without psychedelics?

Edited May 28, 2019 by Joker_Theory

[ivankiss]

@Joker_Theory Push with respect towards the experiencer.  (the ego, the body) Honor the process and the one who's going through it.

Psychedelics are not bad. Wonderful, helpful tool. 

However; misinterpretation of mystical experiences can be dangerous if the mind takes things to the extreme. It cannot wrap itself around itself. Or infinity. Can hurt itself in the process. 

To me; everyday life is integration. It's constant. It is merely a matter of becoming aware of what's already happening. Grounding it all in the center. 

 

 

Edited May 28, 2019 by ivankiss

[zeroISinfinity]

@ivankiss

There is no death there is only life. 

But for enlightenment you Will have to face it, I do not want to mislead people and lie to them that this isn't a case. 

Love is everything,We are your reflection. I am you. This text right here is you so stop worry ing so much. Do only thing you know to do and love. 

There is nowhere to ascend this is it. ❤️

Edited May 28, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[seeking_brilliance]

@ivankiss who gets reincarnated as a fish? Or is this just sarcasm?  Serious question now... Because lots of people talk about reincarnation and I used to buy into that, but I don't understand how an illusion pretending to be human can be reincarnated as something else.  

Edited May 28, 2019 by seeking_brilliance

[ivankiss]

@seeking_brilliance to understand this you would have to completely destroy the illusion and then rebuild it from scratch. 

Not talking sitting in your room, doing your little meditations and contemplating your own death. Talking about literally going out there and destroying your life. Slowly, over time. Until there is nowhere left to go, nothing left to do. Literally.  Actually.

For real.

That's not how you get enlightened.

 @zeroISinfinity ignorance is bliss. 

I am Ivan. I love music. I live in the middle of nowhere. 

I do nothing else. Nothing does everything else.

enlightenment is not a goal or destination. 

Edited May 28, 2019 by ivankiss

[zeroISinfinity]

Enlightenment is right here right now always the case. 

Whom do you think enlightens. You are bringer of the light. Without you there is nothing. ?

[seeking_brilliance]

@ivankiss don't worry... I don't want to be enlightened... I don't even know what that means. And I definitely don't care when this human body dies. The body just hopes it won't be painful ?But you are saying that an enlightened fellow understands reincarnation?  

[ivankiss]

I would rather go for a beer with Alex, than nobody. Or nothing. 

Where's the fun in that? 

 

[ivankiss]

@seeking_brilliance you can be enlightened tho. Just don't claim you have no self while talking and walking like a self, interacting with other selves 

And yes. There is a "level" of consciousness from which reincarnation can be understood and explained. What would others take away from it is another story.

Not relevant now. 

The shift would be too much for my mind and body. Riding smaller waves atm. 

[seeking_brilliance]

39 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

@seeking_brilliance you can be enlightened tho. Just don't claim you have no self while talking and walking like a self, interacting with other selves 

And yes. There is a "level" of consciousness from which reincarnation can be understood and explained. What would others take away from it is another story.

Not relevant now. 

The shift would be too much for my mind and body. Riding smaller waves atm. 

Thanks... Guess I won't count reincarnation out then. And I'm perfectly fine with not understanding it ?

[abrakamowse]

Thanks @ivankiss !!! Great post.

Didn't thought about it that way. Integration is the key.