How to improve anxiety and ocd by giving up hope?

[Consept]

Shot a video to help with anxiety and ocd which I think ties a lot into non duality, check it out if you're looking for advice on these topics 

 

[Bill W]

Hello mate,

I listened to it. Thanks. My response might be going in a different direction to your main message I don't know. It's all about AA I am afraid, but I feel there is a link to your message? 

Yeh, with the reference to AA and 12-step fellowship approach. I was thinking the same thing just before you even mentioned AA, like a few seconds before I was linking your message from the first few minutes to what I have experienced in AA and other 12-step programmes. 

AA as I understand it through my own experience in it, actually empowers people by teaching them that one of the reasons they are still stuck in addiction and/or general dysfunction in life (even if they are clean and sober by this point) is that we have tried so tirelessly to sort out our shit on our own, and we are constantly failing in this because we are trying to fix our mind with our very own mind.

In my experience AA teaches that we are too limited to fix ourselves on our own. I find AA does this in a remarkably empowering way as you have to appreciate many people who come into a 12-step programme are at rock bottom, with zero self-worth as it is. Many are in such turmoil you would never think they would recover and function well again. AA kind of tells you.... "you've done your best, you've fought a good fight, but it's time to throw in the towel and surrender. The game is up". At this point, if you really buy into the programme and have the right meetings to go to, a good sponsor, you are off and running into recovery. 

The Higher Power aspect of the 12-step approach is amazing in my experience. It doesn't necessarily have to be anything to do with God. Many atheists recover and stay in a 12-step programme for a good while. AA gently guides you into choosing your own Higher Power. For some people, the Higher Power is the "room" i.e. the meeting they are in. I have witnessed first hand the power of this. This is where the power of peer support really comes in. There is a massive sense of togetherness, and honesty. 

Also in connection to your message, the 12-step approach really focuses on letting shit go. It's not just about acquire, acquire, acquire skills etc. The ego is constantly under attack if you are properly engaged in a 12-step programme. 

David Hawkins is a big fan of the 12-step approach for this reason. Power is generated in the rooms. A power that for many simply cannot be accessed on your own doing. 

[Consept]

13 minutes ago, Bill W said:

Hello mate,

I listened to it. Thanks. My response might be going in a different direction to your main message I don't know. It's all about AA I am afraid, but I feel there is a link to your message? 

Yeh, with the reference to AA and 12-step fellowship approach. I was thinking the same thing just before you even mentioned AA, like a few seconds before I was linking your message from the first few minutes to what I have experienced in AA and other 12-step programmes. 

AA as I understand it through my own experience in it, actually empowers people by teaching them that one of the reasons they are still stuck in addiction and/or general dysfunction in life (even if they are clean and sober by this point) is that we have tried so tirelessly to sort out our shit on our own, and we are constantly failing in this because we are trying to fix our mind with our very own mind.

In my experience AA teaches that we are too limited to fix ourselves on our own. I find AA does this in a remarkably empowering way as you have to appreciate many people who come into a 12-step programme are at rock bottom, with zero self-worth as it is. Many are in such turmoil you would never think they would recover and function well again. AA kind of tells you.... "you've done your best, you've fought a good fight, but it's time to throw in the towel and surrender. The game is up". At this point, if you really buy into the programme and have the right meetings to go to, a good sponsor, you are off and running into recovery. 

The Higher Power aspect of the 12-step approach is amazing in my experience. It doesn't necessarily have to be anything to do with God. Many atheists recover and stay in a 12-step programme for a good while. AA gently guides you into choosing your own Higher Power. For some people, the Higher Power is the "room" i.e. the meeting they are in. I have witnessed first hand the power of this. This is where the power of peer support really comes in. There is a massive sense of togetherness, and honesty. 

Also in connection to your message, the 12-step approach really focuses on letting shit go. It's not just about acquire, acquire, acquire skills etc. The ego is constantly under attack if you are properly engaged in a 12-step programme. 

David Hawkins is a big fan of the 12-step approach for this reason. Power is generated in the rooms. A power that for many simply cannot be accessed on your own doing. 

Hey man, thanks for watching and thanks for the reply. I agree with you, AA is very powerful, so powerful that i think its methodology should be stretched to help all of those with any addiction and many others with mental health issues. Essentially alcoholism is a mental disease but we as a society tend to just focus on the alcohol part of it, as if the person is just choosing to drink alcohol. 

With regard to the message in the video theres definitely a link and the idea behind this video and other videos im going to post, is to take the methodology from AA and also elements of  non-duality and use it as a way to switch perspective on OCD and anxiety as i know many people are suffering out there and this may help them. 

But youve encouraged me to look into AA even deeper and see what else could applicable, but yeah i love the message and the idea of giving up on the perceived self to sort everything out. Einstein said 'you cant solve problems on the same level they were created' ie you cant solve the problem of self with self lol