Is mourning for loved ones(or anyone) Egoic?

[electroBeam]

So let's just say you see a bunch of microbes under the microscope, and a microbe suddenly gets infected by a virus and is struggling to survive. Now you feel bad for this microbe and 'mourn' for this microbe and have a desire to heal it and make it feel better, is this Egoic?

What about the desire a doctor has to heal others who are sick and about to die? Is this Egoic?

What about a shaman's desire to heal someone of suffering? To help them survive from a disease?

Like if surviving death is just the act of surviving realizing your true nature, why then are we so geared towards relieving sickness, helping others survive when they are about to die?

 

Further, does God not care about war if war is simply reality changing from 1 form to another? Like a person changing from a living being to a dead being on the ground from a gun shot?

[ajasatya]

2 minutes ago, electroBeam said:

Further, does God not care about war if war is simply reality changing from 1 form to another?

Where is "God"?

[electroBeam]

@ajasatya Seeing someone suffering is a real phenomena within reality/God.

The desire to help this person survive(regardless of its relation to me the ego) is also a real phenomena.

I am trying to figure out if this is an Egoic response or an existential one.

Where is God? in every atom of that war. And God manifests suffering, fear and sadness during that outbreak. Does God, the thing in every atom, not desire to change that? Or is that the ego?

[Nahm]

Won’t be found in thought. Meditation is the way. It’s far more subjective that you’ve yet experienced. 

[ajasatya]

1 minute ago, electroBeam said:

Does God, the thing in every atom, not desire to change that?

Do you want to change that? Where does God end and you start?

[electroBeam]

16 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Won’t be found in thought. Meditation is the way. It’s far more subjective that you’ve yet experienced. 

subjective as in delusion?

15 minutes ago, ajasatya said:

Do you want to change that? Where does God end and you start?

The experience arises, not sure where it's from. 

Higher virtues of man is where God starts. The stuff you want to do that inspires you. 

[ajasatya]

@electroBeam Then what's the difference between you wanting and God wanting?

[Nahm]

@electroBeam If thoughts were made from clay, and as soon as the clay becomes a thought the clay is missed, what would be the thing to do, to understand the answers to the questions which arise in the thoughts?

 

[Inliytened1]

4 hours ago, electroBeam said:

So let's just say you see a bunch of microbes under the microscope, and a microbe suddenly gets infected by a virus and is struggling to survive. Now you feel bad for this microbe and 'mourn' for this microbe and have a desire to heal it and make it feel better, is this Egoic?  Yes.  The egoic mind can feel all types of emotions.   It can feel relative Love or relative hate.  From God's formless perspective - the absolute - all collapses but Absolutes.

What about the desire a doctor has to heal others who are sick and about to die? Is this Egoic?  Yes..same concept.

What about a shaman's desire to heal someone of suffering? To help them survive from a disease?  Yes still ego.  But one at very high levels of consciousness can choose Good and Love.  An awakened being can step back and take God's perspective from a formed sense - thereby transcending the ego's perspective.

Like if surviving death is just the act of surviving realizing your true nature, why then are we so geared towards relieving sickness, helping others survive when they are about to die?  A highly conscious individual transcends his own Ego as explained and can choose the way of Absolute Love.  However they also are aware that death is nothing to be feared or to be saddened by if it happens.   Death is the ultimate bliss.  However it does not mean that one should speed up the process for no apparent reason.  One should remain its current form and try to raise his consciousness levels to the highest.  His own form and others should be loved.

 

Further, does God not care about war if war is simply reality changing from 1 form to another? Like a person changing from a living being to a dead being on the ground from a gun shot?

God from the highest perspective loves himself regardless of form.   But in his Infinite intelligence has a grand design to raise his own consciousness so to speak, via the formed, to unify himself once again with Absolute Love.  War is division.  It is God forgetting he is God, going unconscious, then becoming conscious again, and unifying.  But he still loves all of it in his highest form - the formless.  Because it is all One.

 

Edited May 27, 2019 by Inliytened1

[WelcometoReality]

@electroBeam The same movement can both be egoic or non-egoic. You can't decide it from what the movement is but it's rather the source of the movement that determines it. Is it from the whole or is it based in separation?