GOD = REALITY

[abrakamowse]

8 minutes ago, Bill W said:

I guess that's one of the key ingredients in self actualisation? To keep and open mind? 

That's exactly what I was pointing at here!!!

We don't have to label people. And not try to impose our views on others. Just share what we know and sometimes it can be helpful for others, maybe something that others share are helpful for me/us. But if we keep trying to be right we won't be open minded at all!!!

At least that's what I see... 

In my humble opinion.

Edited May 26, 2019 by abrakamowse

[abrakamowse]

10 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Enlightened mind. 

Enlightened heart. 

Enlightened body. 

Enlightened reality. 

It is you. 

He is showing you the Way to God. It is in your heart that is where union happens. 

True.

My favorite quote from him is in my signature.

On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

John 14:20

[zeroISinfinity]

34 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

True.

My favorite quote from him is in my signature.

On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

John 14:20

34 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

 

@Soul-lover 20202020 

He is a He. Probably his soul got crushed. ?

When you now read bible from this perspective.It is wow, Omg this people know this stuff but it is so misinterpreted. Shame

[abrakamowse]

@zeroISinfinity @Soul-lover 2020 still has to realize that Jesus talked in metaphors and he did it also from the POV of being GOD and of being HUMAN.

That's why sometimes what he said seems to not make sense, so the so called "scholars" created all this thing called "theology" where they try to make sense of all what he said.

For example, Jesus said "it is necessary for me to go there and suffer". So the scholars said "Ooooohhhh... he has to go there and suffer so he will carry all our sins on him and we will be forgiven, just that simple"... and from that is where the salvation prayer or the sinner prayer appeared.

You only have to say "I confess Jesus is the saviour" and VOILAAAAA!!! YOU ARE SAVED!!! LORD!!! HALLLELUJAAAAH!!! OMG!!!

Edited May 26, 2019 by abrakamowse

[Bill W]

14 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

@Soul-lover 20202020 

He is a He. Probably his soul got crushed. ?

When you now read bible from this perspective.It is wow, Omg this people know this stuff but it is so misinterpreted. Shame

14 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

@Soul-lover 20202020 

 

I'm trying to keep an open mind and avoid judgement! With soul-lover...

Glancing through the thread. Is there a desire to ridicule his beliefs? Or to entertain yourselves possibly at someone else's expense? 

I don't know. So just asking? Maybe he is in the joke and would find it funny?

[abrakamowse]

5 minutes ago, Bill W said:

I'm trying to keep an open mind and avoid judgement! With soul-lover...

Glancing through the thread. Is there a desire to ridicule his beliefs? Or to entertain yourselves possibly at someone else's expense? 

I don't know. So just asking? Maybe he is in the joke and would find it funny?

We are not making fun of him. I think he is here in the forum for a reason.

I was deluded because of the teachings of the Church, so I am seeing me in him. I would like to had someone to explain me all this before, maybe that's why I try to tell them my experience. But I am not imposing it to him.

If you think we are making fun of him Bill, that's your interpretation. It's not really the case. Nothing fun on our comments really.

Edited May 26, 2019 by abrakamowse

[zeroISinfinity]

@Bill W No I am not making fun of Andrea. He is He, but still don't Wish to get it. To be God-like and realize God means you have to give away your own devilry your own ego. 

God is selfless without self nature. 

I am saying that his soul got crushed because He wants to be Andrea. To be imagined separated self. To be a creature with body.  I am in this body and I am separated from everything.God is out there. You know regular way people see things. 

I myself am not different I was him, at same place on the path. If I want to laugh at him rather Will laugh at myself and all delusions of egoic mind I beleive in. I still fall in it's traps even if I become SOUL in full glory. Amazing God is amazing. 

 

Edited May 26, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[abrakamowse]

I would like to add that GOD = ABSOLUTE too

If we understand GOD as WHAT IS, AS "THAT"... not as the idea created by the ego in our minds.

Remember in the bible it says:

"You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."

The image that he is talking about is not only about material images, it is also a mental image. Don try to understand GOD because mind cannot grasp it.

 

[Truth Addict]

@abrakamowse

But wait. Isn't God alone? Who is he talking to?

[Shin]

1 minute ago, Truth Addict said:

@abrakamowse

But wait. Isn't God alone? Who is he talking to?

Himself.

Creating the illusion of separation

To enjoy itself.

 

[Truth Addict]

@Shin And you're saying that because?

[zeroISinfinity]

9 hours ago, Shin said:

Himself.

Creating the illusion of separation

To enjoy itself.

 

God doesn't create illusions or separations. That is what egoic mind does.

God doesn't need to enjoy itself. Doesn't need apparent reality or anything. 

[ajasatya]

Careful here. We have to understand where people like Soul-Lover 2020 come from.

There are people who have had genuine enlightenment experiences through the teachings of a certain religion, which can be very transforming. I know a guy in person who is a very nice person. He's even an inspiration to me at work. He's a good leader, a good professional and, as far as I can see, he's also a good parent and a good husband. I've asked him about his past and he confirmed that it was extremely destructive, involving robberies, violence, drugs, undisciplined sex thirst etc.

When talking about spirituality/religion though, he speaks just like Soul-Lover 2020. He's had some transforming experience in the past and he's built his life/principles/beliefs upon such teachings. If he listens to something that contradicts his structure of beliefs, it triggers a flight/fight response on him. So it's very important to respect that.

The existential struggle involved on a genuine spiritual seeking process is not something that the average person wants to handle. And most importantly, it cannot be forced. It can only come from within, like an unshakable hunger. When it's time for someone to start confronting his own beliefs, it will happen like the flow of a river (not necessarily calm!).

Be sincere, tell what you think, but don't try to convince anyone. Don't engage in such discussions for too long and don't get emotionally involved in the process. If it happens, it means that you're too attached to your own beliefs, not very different from religious fundamentalists.

[zeroISinfinity]

@ajasatya Thanks ?❤️

[Shin]

3 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

God doesn't create illusions or separations. That is what egoic mind does.

God doesn't need to enjoy itself. Doesn't need apparent reality or anything. 

When I'm really tired I become a Leo parrot I admit.

Still ...

... Roleplaying the asshole instead of the cute girl won't get you in my pants ?

[Inliytened1]

@zeroISinfinity where do you think the egoic mind comes from...some third party entity?  Don't forget Oneness.

You can become directly conscious of Oneness.  

[Inliytened1]

@Shin don't cut yourself short.  You have had glimpses of Truth.  Those glimpses had revealed certain facets to you to where the other facets would fit logically whether you have directly become conscious of them or not.  You also have your intuition even if you haven't had glimpses.

By the way I'm not trying to get in your pants it was simply an observation

 

[zeroISinfinity]

7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@zeroISinfinity where do you think the egoic mind comes from...some third party entity?  Don't forget Oneness.

You can become directly conscious of Oneness.  

Depends where are you at on path. Egoic mind is also an appearance same as Body or anything else. It is consciousness. 

Rise level of consciousness and it Will dissolve.Same goes for all imagined Distinctions, value, separations, beleifs etc. 

It is Consciousness that wakes up to itself not ego. ?

[Inliytened1]

@zeroISinfinity consciousness = God.

But yes it depends on where you are on the path as to what is revealed to you.

[zeroISinfinity]

16 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@zeroISinfinity consciousness = God.

But yes it depends on where you are on the path as to what is revealed to you.

God can create any seeming world any seeming ego "within the world". All made from God as God. 

Point with enlightenment work is for people to get to underlying Formlesnessness, to become their true form. After it they will see themselves as Conciousness which created what they thought were their life as small self. 

Edited May 27, 2019 by zeroISinfinity