Primal fear of death

[Shin]

31 minutes ago, Natasha said:

 

You still have to sit through that with full acceptance and let it happen. There is no other way.

 

WE WILL FIND AN ANOTHER WAY

DON'T TELL US WHAT TO DO !!!!!!!

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[Natasha]

2 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

I know what's going to happen. I'm going to die, but I'm not addicted. ?

Do you hold electronic devices near your lower stomach? I see a lot of people do that and complain about negative affects in that area.  Just a thought.

[WelcometoReality]

7 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@WelcometoReality You'll break through sooner or later. Here's a little something to help.............

 

Thank you! I don't have a sense of being in a fixed location. No boundries. Just space and everything in it (which is the space).

What does come up is an emotional separation that is like a knot in the stomach. That's what is causing separation in the form of a no to experience.

[Natasha]

12 minutes ago, Shin said:

DON'T TELL US WHAT TO DO !!!!!!!

"US" who? I've been only responding to WTR.

Edited May 16, 2019 by Natasha

[cetus]

2 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

I don't have a sense of being in a fixed location. No boundries. 

@WelcometoReality  So who is this "I' that fears death if that's the case?

 

28 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

Just space and everything in it (which is the space).

Lets say your and astronaut doing a space walk and something happens and you you drift off into boundless space. Your cool with that?

[Shin]

36 minutes ago, Natasha said:

"US" who? I've been only responding to WTR.

So you don't have faith in me ?

That hurts

[WelcometoReality]

21 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@WelcometoReality  So who is this "I' that fears death if that's the case?

 

Lets say your and astronaut doing a space walk and something happens and you you drift off into boundless space. Your cool with that?

That's the experience. No separate I that is having the experience.. just alot of fear arising and resistances to the fear.

I don't know what the reactions would be. Probably fear and resistance.

Yes I can see that there still is ego here.  I'm not saying that there's been total ego death.

[WelcometoReality]

@cetus56 There been 2 major realizations that has altered experience.

First there was a recognition of being consciousness and not the person. Still alot of identity left with being consciosness and there was still being consciosness looking out from the body.

The second realization smashed the boundries of inside and outside. There was one. Alot of identity was removed during the realization and has been falling away ever since. But there is still identity left to fall away. 

Even if there is still identity left the experience is still being nothing amd everything. 

Am I making sense?

[WelcometoReality]

1 hour ago, Natasha said:

Do you hold electronic devices near your lower stomach? I see a lot of people do that and complain about negative affects in that area.  Just a thought.

I have a mobile phone in the left front pocket on my jeans. What's the effects?

[cetus]

@WelcometoReality That's cool. Awakening is an infinate process. 

4 minutes ago, WelcometoReality said:

I have a mobile phone in the left front pocket on my jeans. What's the effects?

It's not 5G is it? The're the worst!

[DrewNows]

2 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

It's not 5G is it? The're the worst!

Can’t tell if this is sarcasm. Just did some investigation into frequencies the other day and it’s frightening 

[Shin]

2 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

Can’t tell if this is sarcasm. Just did some investigation into frequencies the other day and it’s frightening 

Sleep with and without your phone near your head, 1 week each.

The difference is clear

Edited May 16, 2019 by Shin

[Ananta]

3 hours ago, WelcometoReality said:

When the fear comes up I surrender to it. Allow it to be. It gradually gets stronger and stronger. The heartbeat raises with it. I continue to surrender then at some point it gets so strong it feels like I'm going to die. I start to resist and then it disappears. 

 

Well, sure sounds very much like a panic attack, except the part where resisting makes it disappear. 

Regardless of what you or I call it, it's causing you to be uncomfortable. So, although it goes away with resisting, it's obviously coming back.

So how about you try not resisting next time?

Put all your attention on it and deep breathe through it.... remind yourself your not going to die. You can't kill a thought (you can trancend it tho) and the physical body is just having a reaction, regardless of what we call it.

Edited May 16, 2019 by Anna1

[DrewNows]

7 minutes ago, Shin said:

Sleep with and without your phone near your head, 1 week each.

The difference is clear

I will but what might I expect if I may ask (talking better sleep quality or clear mind?)  

[cetus]

34 minutes ago, DrewNows said:

Can’t tell if this is sarcasm. Just did some investigation into frequencies the other day and it’s frightening 

That's no joking. Yea it's scary shit. You could end up needing a nutectomy from keeping devices it your front pocket. (if your a male)

[DrewNows]

6 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

That's no joking. Yea it's scary shit. You could end up needing a nutectomy from keeping devices it your front pocket. (if your a male)

Oh How i refuse to believe!  

However I mustn’t let fear and ignorance win. 

Thanks ? 

[Natasha]

4 hours ago, WelcometoReality said:

I have a mobile phone in the left front pocket on my jeans. What's the effects?

https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/impact-of-excessive-mobile-phone-usage-on-human-jcsb-1000235.php?aid=82033&view=mobile

[Truth Addict]

@zeroISinfinity @DrewNows

6 hours ago, zeroISinfinity said:

You are not unlucky, that is a mind created story has no reality what so ever. You are perfect as you are right now. Face your fears allow them embrace them love them understand them. Be with them do not try to resist or change them. All is good. 

Damn I sound like @Serotoninluv

Ah I forgot words like timeline and cowbell ? so not fully there. 

6 hours ago, DrewNows said:

oh but it does (affect reality)...pshh watcha expect from an addict 

Is it really that hard to detect humour?

@WelcometoReality What do you mean exactly by that?

6 hours ago, WelcometoReality said:

A fascination for what's true. 

Is there a practice for that?

Because I can't distinguish between true and false anymore.

[WelcometoReality]

6 hours ago, Truth Addict said:

@zeroISinfinity @DrewNows

Is it really that hard to detect humour?

@WelcometoReality What do you mean exactly by that?

Is there a practice for that?

Because I can't distinguish between true and false anymore.

That's the perfect place to start. To acknowledge that you don't know what's true. Then you investigate as the thoughts and feelings come up.

Is this thought true?

What is this feeling about? There is an anger there but what is it really about? Is there a belief that make the feeling arise?

 

[Truth Addict]

@WelcometoReality ❤️

I hope you're feeling better today..