Becoming the breath means permanent enlightenment

[David Hammond]

2 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

Full blown solipsism. No enlightenment is not solipsism 

That's what you experienced. You have yet to tell me the steps you learned in your state training. You have no training, you just have your 1 second experience and your big mouth lol

[Inliytened1]

@zeroISinfinity absolutely they do.  They feel it 

[David Hammond]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@David Hammond the breathing techniques are valid.  They are a form of buddhist mediation.  It works.  But don't put a time limit on it.  And it hasn't worked for yourself yet.

In your imagination yes that is true.. But in reality nobody gets enlightened from watching Leo on youtube and practicing self inquiry. You get it because you earn it through years of practice and developing as a person on a path and as you learn you learn new techniques from a master. It's like going to uni. 

You're lucky I'm here even speaking about this. 

[zeroISinfinity]

2 minutes ago, David Hammond said:

That's what you experienced. You have yet to tell me the steps you learned in your state training. You have no training, you just have your 1 second experience and your big mouth lol

I become it 3 times so far I really do not have any idea how long I was THAT. No space no time no awareness no world no phenomena no "me" 

[David Hammond]

48 minutes ago, Joker_Theory said:

@David Hammond Can i control the breath been having issues with that? so you saying breath deeply into the hara area and i can control it? also have problems breathing with one nostril will that have an effect?

Don't breathe deeply. Breathe natural, but observe the sensations in the hara belly area. Everything should be natural.so that you are not involved at all..The more you consciously get involved you are thinking.. 

[Inliytened1]

@David Hammond its like pissing in the wind with you.  I give up. 

[David Hammond]

4 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

I become it 3 times so far I really do not have any idea how long I was THAT. No space no time no awareness no world no phenomena no "me" 

Guys stop littering my thread. There are people who want advice on here..be eithcal 

[Javfly33]

This is what I call mania+ego-inflation by being obssesively focused in anything for a lot of amount of time lol

 

Nah, now seriously...I want to believe you but...what happens if you go distracted for a long time into anything (work, etc) you think will be still awake when you go back to your practice?

Edited May 12, 2019 by Javfly33

[David Hammond]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@David Hammond its like pissing in the wind with you.  I give up. 

Please do. You're not enlightened. Having on experience is not enlightenment.

Even logically this is absurd. There are thousands of people training all their lives who don't get enlightened but you show up, watch a few of Leo's videos, have one experience after a short time meditating and now all of a sudden you are qualified enlightened master?

Go find a real teacher, you think enlightenment is ego death. That is a clear indication that you have not trained your states to disidentify ad mind and body first. If you are disidentified with mind and body in mediation then it's a nice feeling as you expand to infinity , there is no death. So what you're saying is false from the get go. And an experience of infinity is nothing..You need to non conceptually recognize that there is NO appearance. 

[zeroISinfinity]

How you can lead people to enlightenment if you are not enlightened yourself. Leo has full right to do so, not you. 

[Inliytened1]

@David Hammond now you are littering your own thread.  You couldn't resist that ego burst to get the last word in.

Zero is right...you are teaching techniques that have not even brought you the teacher enlightenment.  Therefore to all you guys out there i would be very skeptical about his ability to teach you these techniques because his idea of enlightenment is deluded.

I'm done here...if you want to litter your own thread and get another last word in that's a bunch of BS go ahead.

Edited May 12, 2019 by Inliytened1

[David Hammond]

25 minutes ago, Drake140 said:

Where can one find such a teacher? Just for testing at least if you are worth anything or where you are in that path.

I don't offer myself as a teacher. I'm just giving my opinion..people are free to take or leave it.

But You can go to a real teacher. Not sadguru, not spira, not Ralston. Not ken wilber. A lineage holder in adwaita or dzogchen. Train with them. That's how it's always been. In the east adwaita teachers sent their students to train with Buddhist and vice a versa. Its all intermingled. But the one thing that's constant is staying with a master because only a master can transmit guru yoga to you. Sitting on the internet watching YouTube videos is not going to do it. 

[David Hammond]

5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@David Hammond now you are littering your own thread.  You couldn't resist that ego burst to get the last word in.

Zero is right...you are teaching techniques that have not even brought you the teacher enlightenment.  Therefore to all you guys out there i would be very skeptical about his ability to teach you these techniques because his idea of enlightenment is deluded.

Says the guy with one experience taken from the back of a collection of YouTube videos and no training.

You even said I had to compare myself with Jesus and Ghandi.  (social conditioning, you're not even an aware authetic ego  you are still completely lost in abuse)

Please get off my thread if you only want to argue..You were already warned by a moderator

Edited May 12, 2019 by David Hammond

[David Hammond]

10 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

How you can lead people to enlightenment if you are not enlightened yourself. Leo has full right to do so, not you. 

What are you trying to do? You're not enlightened.. You had a 1 second experience and now you're got ADHD on the forum telling everyone to love. 

Is that your teaching? 

Leo isn't enlightened. 

[zeroISinfinity]

LOVE =Conciousness more Love higher Conciousness. Pure consciousness =God realization 

You are so Epicly deluded

[David Hammond]

24 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

I become it 3 times so far I really do not have any idea how long I was THAT. No space no time no awareness no world no phenomena no "me" 

Ok, no phenomena? Right, we're getting somewhere. 

Why are you doing it this way tho? On the forum overly excited? Is that helping anyone? Can you go there now? If not then you have work to do , training to do. Being enlightened isn't about remembering that and then trying to tell everyone..maybe its time to get ethical and start shadow work or something? 

[David Hammond]

5 minutes ago, Drake140 said:

@David Hammond You have much to learn on how to treat people, if you don't advance that part of yours to the level of the rest of your development it will hinder you.

Oh I learned that . Now I'm doing the dirty work  

I can turn on the ethical nice guy but that is a persona.

I'm moving into yellow now. If you want to learn that then Carl Jung is your man.

[David Hammond]

4 minutes ago, zeroISinfinity said:

You are so Epicly deluded

This is why I say this forum is blue. Because nobody seems to know what is going on and what it takes to get into 2nd tier. 

You dont understand. You might be enlightened for 1 minutes or 3 hours or 3 months, but you don't understand psychology. You think I have to be a certain way for you. That is a sign you have much work to do

[David Hammond]

3 minutes ago, Drake140 said:

Either way your job is not going unnoticed.

This is for me. Take it or leave it. Go spend a afternoon reading my history here, I don't care if people listen..I give my opinion and people are free to take it or leave it.

 

[Shin]

39 minutes ago, David Hammond said:

In your imagination yes that is true.. But in reality nobody gets enlightened from watching Leo on youtube and practicing self inquiry. You get it because you earn it through years of practice and developing as a person on a path and as you learn you learn new techniques from a master. It's like going to uni. 

You're lucky I'm here even speaking about this.