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Today is the Holocaust memorial day in Israel

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And there is an Instagram user which simulates a jewish girl called Eva during the WW2 who updates every hour how she and her family doing. And so far her last update was that she has taken by the nazis to the ghetto. In the morning she will send new updates from the ghetto. 

It seems so realistic.

After watching it, i felt very proude that today we are strong. We have strong army and everyone know that the jews that were so unprotectable during the holocause, are now one of the strongest states in the world. We have smart airplanes and enourmesly smart missles and submarines. It makes me very proud and excited every year this day.

Many people takes for granted their privillege to leave in the (relatively) free western world of today, that they can read the last paragraph and think its "primitive" to get excited from "strong state" or "army" and other patriotic words.

Just to remind those people: the only reason you live in a free democracy is because the fact that USA is the police officer of the world, with the strongest army in the world. 

"Army" is not a bluish primitive word. Army can exist (and will exist) in every stage. Including green and yellow. It just be much more moral and ethic one.

Army is the thing which keeps our high values alive. Army Is the physical armor shield of orange-green-yellow-above values. So its OK to be proud and have warm feeling from that.

But its not that within Israel we are all ok. In 2-3 weeks from now we going to have the most currapt government ever was in israel with 4 or 5 ministers who charged with bribery and prime minister who also accused on something similar. And we are, the liberal ones, gonna have a lot of work to do if we want to save our country from drowning in the values of this blue-blue-orange toxic governmemt.

The story of Eva (in english!) Here:

https://instagram.com/eva.stories?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=cqvnloqufjpw

 

 

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Army doesn't exist in tier two, because there is no enemy to fight.

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@Truth Addict when Israel will just reach tier 2, the rest of middle east will still be at tier 1.

 


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@Nivsch

This sounds a little bit unrealistic, and too much optimistic.

I don't think a state can develop beyond orange as long as there's war within the same area.

And as long as there's war, that means that there's not much difference in power and influence between the two.

The tug of war must end.

There are two scenarios, both sides will have to accept each other and then evolve together, or God forbid, they will keep fighting until one destroys the other.

But there are larger dynamics going on, first world governments want to keep them fighting, because that'll allow them to sell weapons to Arabs, and therefore provide a good deal of money, and also Iran and Russia have the same business with Arabs.

Plus, and I'm not sure about this, but they say that Trump provides protection and support to Israel because they can provide him stability right now, and because they'll somehow help him win the next election, using their money and influence.

Politics is a very complicated topic, and I'm sorry about the holocaust, I hope we will reach more peaceful places really soon.

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It makes sense what you say and i'm partially agree. 

There is ~55% of the population in israel who are blue-orange (in average) and this is still much above the average of middle east (red-blue).

But, there is also ~45% of israel citizens who are orange-green and we are NOT in the government since 2009. I think this half is progressing well and not really different from western europe. I believe this half is connected emotionally to the western world and hence will keep going up. 

About the other half..... this is chalenging and i agree with you.

USA have special relationship with Israel. I strongly believe its not all interesting but also values based.

Russia and Iran are co-operate in some degree but Iran regime is the no1 sponser of terrorism and it supported by 20-30% of Iran population. Most of Iran citizens are moderate and want to connect the western world but their regime is arresting them even for hearing pop music. Very dark regime they have.

Its interesting what you said about trump ill think about what you said. Trump is indeed primitive and cold thinking but in the other hand he really simphatize israel and prefer israel in almost every topic. The former USA un embassador Nicki Heily is republican but i think she is relatively developed person (blue-orange-green) she fought against all the UN hypocrisity about israel (the only democracy in ocean of violent ideologies). She was a lighthouse of sanity in her work as an embassador in the un.

Thank you ♥️

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The previous embassador (in obamas era i dont remeber her name) was leftist green but she have joined the un hyporisy and this is one of stage green fails in my opinion. I really dont think every green person will have to pass this naive sub-stage in order to become yellow. I think you can be realistic green and support justice and than in the future become yellow.

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