My Experience With Thought-less Mind. Bursting Myths. And Need Some Advice.

Derek White
By Derek White in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God,
I'll try to be as succinct as possible time but this post needs to be long, so bear with me. I was introduced to the idea of a thought-less state of mind by my grade 4 drama teacher who challenged us to sit for a certain period of time and not think.  Of course I failed at that time. But the desire to reach such a state lingered on. I got into spirituality, so to speak, about 5 years ago to solve very basic, day-to-day problems. As time went on I got more and more into it and wanted to have complete control over my mind and part of that included to experience thought-less state off mind.  Long story short, I finally achieved thoughtlessness about 1.5 or 2 years ago. I won't go into the details but I will say the way to do it is to let go and just observe your thoughts and they will eventually go away. Also, seeing the limitations of thought and focusing on external objects like sounds helps in the beginning but you won't need them after a while; you would just be able to do it immediately. I started with Sandeep Maheshwari's Sound of Silence meditation but didn't need it afterwards. Also, Initially it can also be very depressing and empty experience. Anyway, for the past 1.5 years I practiced it whenever I got the chance. I didn't really have any desire to think. I just wanted to experience being or directly experience reality. So on average, I would sit alone with eyes closed and have 20 to 45 min. of silence (no words or images in the mind), 3 to 4 times a day and throughout the day I would have very low frequency of thoughts and certainly no thinking (chain of thoughts). They would appear and then just vanish. I think my experience with this is a little different from what I expected and heard people talk about, so it might sound strange to you.    What my experience was like:  Pros: Happiness Relaxation Better Body Awareness (helped cured my nasal congestion which drugs and steroids could not cure) No stress Clarity of perception (less confusion) Intense emotions when seeing something beautiful like a movie or a poem Cons: Forgetfulness, I use to have a strong memory but this practice for some reason really crippled it.   Difficulty getting back to thinking (it's like changing gears) Difficulty doing math and other academic subjects Hard time expressing myself Hard time planning for the future as you're so engrossed in the moment Meaninglessness  (really both a pro and a con)  which leads to laziness, and dispassion but not in a depressing way   So without wasting time here are some insights I gained: Thought-less State = Increased awareness/ observation Thought-less State = Relaxation and peace of mind and happiness and love Thought-less State = Increased difference between mind, body, and you Thought-less State ≠ Infinite intelligence Thought-less State ≠ Understanding Thought-less State ≠ Solution to practical problems  Thought-less State ≠ End Goal And Thinking = Solution to practical problems Thinking = Learning from experiences  Thinking = Understanding   A few months back I was watching a podcast where some athletes were talking about achieving no-mind while performing their sport and how it will improve their sporting careers, though they think actual no-mind is not possible, they want to get as close to it as possible. It may work for athletes who don't really need to use their mind in their craft but if you're a uni. student you should not aspire to it too much. A math question won't solve itself if you just stare at it and you won't get any insight into the question by just sitting there staring. You need to actually use thinking. Thinking is a very important tool, it's there for a reason. It is probably one thing that separates us form other living things.  Thoughtlessness is useful for observations ,but to put those observations to good use you need thinking.  I was inspired by Sadhguru's stories, one of which is when Vivekananda holds a book in his hand and after about half an hour know every page of the book by heart without even opening it. He is always talking about how he does stuff without mind and thinking. Also, other stories of his and many other teachers who talk about this state.  I think it is a trap to think thoughtless state of mind is a solution to all your problems and an end goal. I don't think this state is any special and most people probably have experienced it before and are just not aware of it. But I didn't experience any new forms of perception or have any ground breaking insights or infinite intelligence or see ghosts or energy or break the boundaries of my sensations or read people's minds or become another object like people claim... Doing it too much made it hard for me to think properly. It is as difficult to go from excessive non-thinking to thinking. Non- thinking is like an addiction, same as thinking. It also had a negative impact on my memory. This ultimately had a very bad impact on my university life.  So in the end, I would like to request people who have experienced this state of mind to share their experience below.  Also I would like to know, from people who have actually experienced this state, whether to continue with this or not since it is affecting my uni. life or if I am even doing it right?
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