How much more are people with previous spiritual experiences affected by psychedelics

[Bobby]

Howdy. Any of y’all who read my last post know im preparing for my first trip ever!

One thing I want to ask before I trip though, is are people who’ve already had awakenings affected more by psychedelics? My plan is to take 2 grams of mushrooms, that probably wouldn’t be an earth shattering experience for the average person but for me I think it might be.  So I had the thought that I should go even lower, maybe 1.5 grams

people who took moderate doses of psyches after already having nondual experiences, do you think they affected you more than is typical of that dose?

Edited April 29, 2019 by Bobby

[Javfly33]

The drug doesn´t affect you more, but rather if you have had spiritual experiences in the past is way, way more probable that you´ll get an spiritual experience in the trip.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Javfly33

[Forestluv]

Different mind-bodies have different sensitivities to psychedelics and there are a lot of variables. It’s an interplay of physical, psychological and energetic factors. 

In general, psychedelics increase a mind-body’s sensitivity to. . . whatever it’s in tune with during the trip. The trend for me was that as my baseline conscious level increased, my sensitivity to psychedelics increased and I reduced the dosage. I’ve seen a similar effect in others. Yet there are some beings that seem to have a naturally low sensitivity to psychedelics. As well, I’ve met beings with a lot of nondual experience that are underwhelmed with standard dosages. It’s like it’s still a nondual existence without any deep break throughs and realizations. 

The dosage depends on your intentions. Are you looking to take a “trial run” to get a feel for it before taking a deeper second trip? Or perhaps to boost your spiritual sensitivity a little bit during mediation/contemplatiion? Or perhaps to enter a deeper realm for realizations?

2g is the low end of a “common” dose. If you are particularly sensitive, this may take you to the upper end of a common dose into a full nondual state. Yet it’s unlikely to go into waaay out there zones that are extremely difficult to integrate. . .  If you happen to be less sensitive, 2g would feel like a light dose in which the mind-body is feeling something yet may still be asking “Is this it? What’s supposed to happen next?”

Dosage and mindset are key variables. The third key variable is setting. Setting can have a significant impact on a trip and should be considered on par with dosage and mindset, imo and ime. 

 

[Bobby]

@Serotoninluv gotcha.

based on this 2 grams sounds perfect. 

Yes I want the full blown awakening :). But also not something that could be too much to handle

Edited April 29, 2019 by Bobby

[Bobby]

30 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

The drug doesn´t affect you more, but rather if you have had spiritual experiences in the past is way, way more probable that you´ll get an spiritual experience in the trip.

Is what you mean that it will not be more intense in terms of auxiliary effects like visuals or confusion, but that it’s more likely to result in ego death?

[Forestluv]

1 minute ago, Bobby said:

@Serotoninluv gotcha.

based on this 2 grams sounds perfect.

it’ll be good regardless

I think 2g offers a good range. If after an hour, it feels strong I would just relax, let  go and go with the flow. If it feels underwhelming and the mind-body wants more, I would “participate” in the trip. It can take some practice, yet it sounds like you have experience in some deeper levels of awareness and nonduality. When I’m on a light trip just a bit higher than threshold, it may appear to be underwhelming. Yet this can be a powerful “transitional” zone. Work with and and boost yourself up and explore. Sober, it can be difficult to get into these spaces, yet in a light trip it is much easier - if you are in tune with it.  In this zone, a mind can ground itself in “normal” reality or take itself into a nondual mystical state. During one trip, I was walking in nature and it felt like I underdosed. Yet then I entered a er mystical state and was like “Dang, I just did that”. Then I ran into a maintenance worker and snapped back into “normal” reality to have a brief conversation. Then, I snapped back into the mystical state. It was super cool and helped me to develop this ability sober (albeit to a lesser extent).