The Paradox of Waking Up From Ken Wilber

[kieranperez]

I really want to share this video as it’s something that missing l in A LOT of people’s understanding of the ramifications of pursuing enlightenment. 

This was pretty much the realization I had from my acid trip and I honestly couldn’t have worded it better than Ken does here.  

There is paradox when you awaken. The question is... are you actually going to do the best you can at living that paradox? Or are you just going to play on one side of the street? 

Actually watch the damn video too. 

Quote

“Realize there really are no others to save, and therefore you vow to do everything you can to save them.” - Ken Wilber

What kinda person do you really have to be to do that?

Do you fundamentally understand what you’re actually realizing/pursuing? You think a fully awakened human being just neglects the very world that they themselves are?

[RichardY]

Interestingly the quote is from Erasmus. Another one "In a free state, tongues should be free." Erasmus quoting the Emperor Tiberius to support free speech, Caligula's grandfather.

[kieranperez]

24 minutes ago, Mikael89 said:

"Things are truly truly a nightmare."

Only 1 side of the street. It’s also infinitely perfect and beautiful. 

[Lister]

Well this is the problem with Ken wilber. He's probably done a few trips in his life and is riding on the memory of it. All his work comes from his fantasy world, so so many people have debunked him now that it's become a bit of a joke in spiritual circles.

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by Lister

[noselfnofun]

49 minutes ago, Lister said:

Well this is the problem with Ken wilber. He's probably done a few trips in his life and is riding on the memory of it. All his work comes from his fantasy world, so so many people have debunked him now that it's become a bit of a joke in spiritual circles.

 

As in hes not actually enlightened?

[Preetom]

2 hours ago, noselfnofun said:

As in hes not actually enlightened?

I heard he stared at a blank wall for 3 years and got enlightened 

[Lister]

2 hours ago, noselfnofun said:

As in hes not actually enlightened?

I think it's more to do with his 3rd tier stuff / "integral yoga". 

[Preetom]

Teh more one talks, teh more shit starts coming outta ones mouth at some point.

Something to carefully consider.

Edited April 28, 2019 by Preetom