No-self to God-Self

[cetus]

2 hours ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

Here's a video that sums up where you guys are coming from:

@Soul-lover 2020 I watched it. Not even close brother.

15 minutes ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

We ARE NOT Christ. 

True not Christ but Christ Consciousness.

3 minutes ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,

Fear? Why fear? Fear only serves to create partitions between God and man.

[Nahm]

9 minutes ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

And for those of you who mock:

Proverbs 1:1-7 (NKJV)

The Beginning of Knowledge

The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel:

To know wisdom and instruction,
To perceive the words of understanding,
To receive the instruction of wisdom,
Justice, judgment, and equity;
To give prudence to the simple,
To the young man knowledge and discretion—
A wise man will hear and increase learning,
And a man of understanding will attain wise counsel,
To understand a proverb and an enigma,
The words of the wise and their riddles.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Very wise passage. You’re not actually doing this. You’re preaching it. 

You describe the boat with acuity, while you’re missing it. 

[abrakamowse]

6 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@Soul-lover 2020 

True not Christ but Christ Consciousness.

In reality what he is not is Jesus. He is Christ.  I use Christ and Christ Consciousness interchangeably. 

Christ just means the anointed one. We are all anointed.

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[cetus]

Just now, abrakamowse said:

Christ just means the anointed one. We are all anointed.

@abrakamowse in that sense Yes

[Soul-lover 2020]

13 minutes ago, Shin said:

He's saying that the Truth cannot be recognized by the 5 senses, because it's beyond the material realm.

Shin

To deny that which is clearly seen and known is indeed foolish, as revealed in the following scripture:

1 Romans 18-32 (NKJV)

God’s Wrath on Unrighteousness

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.  Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Happy searching....

Andrea 

[Enizeo]

I'm quite sure she's trolling actually

[Soul-lover 2020]

All,

One day you'll find out that the words of Christ, His apostles, and everyone else who wrote the Holy Scriptures of the Judaeo-Christian faith knew what they were talking about. 

Andrea  

[Preetom]

Andrea is just trying to take you guys back to Sunday church and start a friendly christian community.

While you nonsualists are trying to kill Andrea.

You heartless sickoes ? ?

[Soul-lover 2020]

25 minutes ago, Enizeo said:

I'm quite sure she's trolling actually

If you mean me, you're mistaken.  And I'm a he.  Andrea is Andrew in Italian. 

[abrakamowse]

1 hour ago, cetus56 said:

@abrakamowse in that sense Yes

[abrakamowse]

30 minutes ago, Soul-lover 2020 said:

If you mean me, you're mistaken.  And I'm a he.  Andrea is Andrew in Italian. 

Why Andrea/Andrew do you need to convince us of the twisted interpretation of the bible done by the Church?

You are not reasoning that interpretation, you only repeat like a parrot what is taught to you in dominical church without questioning anything.

You are accepting what it is said in the Established Church like the New Age guys you  mentioned that believe in extraterrestrials, ghosts, spirits, demons and the occult!!!

You are doing the same that they do!!!!

 

"How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

[Preetom]

1 hour ago, cetus56 said:

@Soul-lover 2020

Fear? Why fear? Fear only serves to create partitions between God and man.

"Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge"

Actually this is a very important instruction for any serious spiritual journey to begin.

Its a religious/devotional way of saying the same thing Advaita considers as a very important first step as well which is having a strong doubt and distaste towards the mundane/conventional reality which one believes in for granted. There is no further inquiry without this vairagya or dispassion.

This same message is instructed in the devotional teachings as renounce your busy, stupid, anxious life to God. Stop being  an atheist/materialist and start trusting the all powerful force which is God.

The fear of God is the fear that consumes all other fears and thus liberates a soul from all fears and anxieties.

Similarly, the utter distaste and diapassion towards the transitory sense objects is the distaste that consumes all other distastes and thus fulfills one with infinite bliss of the Self.

Basically the same thing told in a slightly different twist. Hope this makes sense

 

 

Edited May 13, 2019 by Preetom

[abrakamowse]

@Preetom I agree. I know the fear in the bible sounds like FEAR!!!! Lol... but in my opinion is more a matter of respect about what the message is saying. 

[Preetom]

5 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

@Preetom I agree. I know the fear in the bible sounds like FEAR!!!! Lol... but in my opinion is more a matter of respect about what the message is saying. 

Yeah it starts as that respect for the holy books and prophets, but it ultimately means to surrender everything on God.

There is a saying in Islam which is fear none accept Allah. Just imagine what would happen if you trained yourself to that instruction. All fears in phenomenal realm will eventually be consumed.

Spirituality is a serious business with the greatest cost and casualities there is : your entire life 

 

[abrakamowse]

11 minutes ago, Preetom said:

Yeah it starts as that respect for the holy books and prophets, but it ultimately means to surrender everything on God.

There is a saying in Islam which is fear none accept Allah. Just imagine what would happen if you trained yourself to that instruction. All fears in phenomenal realm will eventually be consumed.

Spirituality is a serious business with the greatest cost and casualities there is : your entire life 

True

[Anton_Pierre]

@Preetom ??

[Soul-lover 2020]

19 hours ago, abrakamowse said:

Why Andrea/Andrew do you need to convince us of the twisted interpretation of the bible done by the Church?

You are not reasoning that interpretation, you only repeat like a parrot what is taught to you in dominical church without questioning anything.

You are accepting what it is said in the Established Church like the New Age guys you  mentioned that believe in extraterrestrials, ghosts, spirits, demons and the occult!!!

You are doing the same that they do!!!!

 

"How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."

Abrakamowse,

You're very confused with your accusations.  I reject that which is untrue.  It is YOU who believes whatever others want him to believe.  Stop projecting.

Children can understand the Bible.  So what's your problem with it?

Andrea  

Edited May 14, 2019 by Soul-lover 2020

[cetus]

On 5/13/2019 at 11:27 AM, Preetom said:

"Fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge"

Actually this is a very important instruction for any serious spiritual journey to begin.

Its a religious/devotional way of saying the same thing Advaita considers as a very important first step as well which is having a strong doubt and distaste towards the mundane/conventional reality which one believes in for granted. There is no further inquiry without this vairagya or dispassion.

This same message is instructed in the devotional teachings as renounce your busy, stupid, anxious life to God. Stop being  an atheist/materialist and start trusting the all powerful force which is God.

The fear of God is the fear that consumes all other fears and thus liberates a soul from all fears and anxieties.

Similarly, the utter distaste and diapassion towards the transitory sense objects is the distaste that consumes all other distastes and thus fulfills one with infinite bliss of the Self.

Basically the same thing told in a slightly different twist. Hope this makes sense

 

 

@Preetom Makes sense but for me there has never been a "journey". You see it all started at the age of 4 or 5 as a series of strong direct experiences of oneness That was before any conceptual knowlage had taken hold.  Heck man there wasn't even the concept of "God".  There was just "what is" - The oneness of everything both seen and unseen.

[Nahm]

@Soul-lover 2020 Absolutely the best trolling I’ve seen yet. Most amazing is I believe you don’t realize you’re doing it. Maybe you do. Hard to say. You’ve got em eating right out of your hands. 

[abrakamowse]

@Nahm

 

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