No-self to God-Self

[Anton_Pierre]

3 minutes ago, Nahm said:

?

Write “well being” on a piece of paper, and lay it on the table. 

Look at the paper, read it. Notice the idea of well being. 

Then remove the piece of paper, see the table. 

See it. 

@Nahm Am I supposed to something?

[zeroISinfinity]

5 minutes ago, Nahm said:

?

Write “well being” on a piece of paper, and lay it on the table. 

Look at the paper, read it. Notice the idea of well being. 

Then remove the piece of paper, see the table. 

See it. 

? True. I see it so sneaky so so sneaky. 

Edited April 29, 2019 by zeroISinfinity

[Nahm]

@Anton_Pierre Of course not. 

@zeroISinfinity Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sneaky!

[Anton_Pierre]

@Nahm

2 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Anton_Pierre Of course not. 

Why not?

[Nahm]

@Soul-lover 2020 I think Leo’s spiral dynamics videos, specifically blue & orange, would be of tremendous benefit to you. 

[Nahm]

@Anton_Pierre Because there is no I relative to supposed, nor a thing which could be a catalyst for supposing. What difference would yes have made? ?.    You know this. 

[Anton_Pierre]

@Nahm You expect me to know everything? I know nothing.

 

[Nahm]

@Anton_Pierre I lost track of content at your first post honestly. 

?

Know everything. 

[Anton_Pierre]

@Nahm You have me confused now 

[Nahm]

@Anton_Pierre Only if you’re thinking. 

[Aakash]

@Nahm LOL thats so cute, big enlightened self talking to small enlightened self who is thinking its finite and confused! yet the same people

Love is so cute

Edited April 29, 2019 by Aakash

[zeroISinfinity]

1 hour ago, Nahm said:

@Soul-lover 2020 I think Leo’s spiral dynamics videos, specifically blue & orange, would be of tremendous benefit to you. 

1 hour ago, zeroISinfinity said:

? True. 

Caught red handed. Much love man. 

[Anton_Pierre]

@Aakash big and small is a duality.

[Dodo]

16 hours ago, Aakash said:

@Nahm LOL thats so cute, big enlightened self talking to small enlightened self who is thinking its finite and confused! yet the same people

Love is so cute

big and small does not apply to awareness, so comparing small enlightened self and big enlightened self is funny because the self is only one  

[abrakamowse]

On 4/29/2019 at 7:50 AM, Soul-lover 2020 said:

Abrakamowse,

I am NOT God.  We are two separate, completely different beings, and yet His spirit lives in me, and I in Him.  We are inseparable.  He is spirit, and He rules the entire cosmos.

Want to know more?  Read the Holy Bible....  

Andrea

I read it, thousand times, I still read it and is my source of knowledge at the moment and I read it more and more frequently than any other "holy" book.

 

what do you think that Jesus meant when he said "Me and the Father are one?" and...

On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

John 14:20

On that day, it means the day when you will realize that you and god are one... and everyone, not only Jesus. Everyone.

He says "realize" it means something that you didn't see well, at that moment you will see it differently.

You will see that he is in the father and you are in him, and he in you. More clear than that, I don't know anything that could be more clear than that. He's saying "don't you see that we are all one?"...

 

You are talking with a Christian (I was also a "mainstream" Christian), that never understood well the words of Jesus, and now it makes complete sense to me. More sense that when I was a "traditional/mainstream" christian. The beliefs and dogmas in the church are like the milk that we drink when we are children, the meat is to know that we are one also with Jesus and God and everyone.

Those who think are "separated" are the ones that Jesus said...

"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven."

 

The idea of separation is what happened in the original sin, when the devil wanted to be like GOD. This is what the ego wants. To feel he is GOD, that's why we deny God. But we can also create an EGO who believes in God. That can happen.

The EGO/DEVIL is very tricky. Be careful, mainstream Christianity is full of that. It's like the Devil is preaching through them, so people doesn't really deny themselves, as Jesus said. 

They don't do the work of denying themselves (denying the ego part of them), they create another EGO/DEVIL who thinks is a saint, that is saved and condemns and judge everyone, the same way that the pharisees judge Christ because he said he was GOD. Before Abraham was, I AM.

Edited April 30, 2019 by abrakamowse

[abrakamowse]

On 4/29/2019 at 10:21 AM, Soul-lover 2020 said:

jkris,

What I'm saying is true, and the Holy Bible is the best source to turn to, for getting your questions answered.  But I have a question for you: Who's actually responsible for the terrorism, murder, rape, etc?  It certainly isn't God.

The Bible actually says that God makes everything.

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness:

I make peace, and create evil:

I the Lord do all these things.

Lamentations 3:38

Is it not from the mouth of the Most High

That both good and ill go forth?

Amos 3:6

If a a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble?

If a calamity occurs in a city has not the Lord done it?

Edited April 30, 2019 by abrakamowse

[abrakamowse]

On 4/26/2019 at 5:40 AM, Soul-lover 2020 said:

Anton,

You're the invisible man!  That's soooo funny, because if you have no self, then you don't exist!  God actually exists, and you are not Him.  

Self > No-Self > God-Self = Delusional Belief.

Andrea  

God exists, but God is one with everything. Christ realized that so he said "Me and the Father are one".

 

The one that doesn't exist is the small self (with lower caps). The only one that exists is the big Self (with caps) = God

The denial of the self is what Jesus taught about. "Deny yourself" and he explained that this one is false and it didn't exists.

Quote

 

In John 8:44

"He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

 

He is the father of lies, the lie is what is not real. We think it exists but it doesn't.

You don't like the idea that God is the only one that exists and you are holding on your idea of yourself. Jesus was very clear that you have to lose your life to gain him. Your life is what you think you are know.

When you deny yourself you will leave "your life" you will die to the false self and you will be born again in Christ. With a new ego, but in fact you will have no-self, because you will be one with Jesus and God so your self (with small caps) will die and you will be born again the in the Self (with big caps).

 

All these is very noticeable in a lot of things that Jesus said like:

Quote

 

Matthew 10:37

“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

 

 

[Soul-lover 2020]

On 4/29/2019 at 5:01 PM, zeroISinfinity said:

Very Good pointer I AM not I am. ?❤️

Not a pointer at all.  Only Jesus Christ is the great I AM.  You are not qualified to make such a claim about yourself.

[Soul-lover 2020]

19 hours ago, abrakamowse said:

I read it, thousand times, I still read it and is my source of knowledge at the moment and I read it more and more frequently than any other "holy" book.

 

what do you think that Jesus meant when he said "Me and the Father are one?" and...

On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

John 14:20

On that day, it means the day when you will realize that you and god are one... and everyone, not only Jesus. Everyone.

He says "realize" it means something that you didn't see well, at that moment you will see it differently.

You will see that he is in the father and you are in him, and he in you. More clear than that, I don't know anything that could be more clear than that. He's saying "don't you see that we are all one?"...

 

You are talking with a Christian (I was also a "mainstream" Christian), that never understood well the words of Jesus, and now it makes complete sense to me. More sense that when I was a "traditional/mainstream" christian. The beliefs and dogmas in the church are like the milk that we drink when we are children, the meat is to know that we are one also with Jesus and God and everyone.

Those who think are "separated" are the ones that Jesus said...

"Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven."

 

The idea of separation is what happened in the original sin, when the devil wanted to be like GOD. This is what the ego wants. To feel he is GOD, that's why we deny God. But we can also create an EGO who believes in God. That can happen.

The EGO/DEVIL is very tricky. Be careful, mainstream Christianity is full of that. It's like the Devil is preaching through them, so people doesn't really deny themselves, as Jesus said. 

They don't do the work of denying themselves (denying the ego part of them), they create another EGO/DEVIL who thinks is a saint, that is saved and condemns and judge everyone, the same way that the pharisees judge Christ because he said he was GOD. Before Abraham was, I AM.

Abrakamowse,

Jesus said that He was in the Father, and the Father was in Him, because the fullness of the Father was in Him, i.e. the Holy Spirit of God.  The God of the Holy Bible is the Father, the Son who is Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.  If the Holy Spirit lives in you, then you are in Christ.

The Devil is more than just an ego.  He's a fallen angel.  Lucifer was his name, and rebellion toward God was his aim....

God bless.

Andrea

 

 

[Soul-lover 2020]

13 hours ago, abrakamowse said:

God exists, but God is one with everything. Christ realized that so he said "Me and the Father are one".

The one that doesn't exist is the small self (with lower caps). The only one that exists is the big Self (with caps) = God

The denial of the self is what Jesus taught about. "Deny yourself" and he explained that this one is false and it didn't exists.

He is the father of lies, the lie is what is not real. We think it exists but it doesn't.

You don't like the idea that God is the only one that exists and you are holding on your idea of yourself. Jesus was very clear that you have to lose your life to gain him. Your life is what you think you are know.

When you deny yourself you will leave "your life" you will die to the false self and you will be born again in Christ. With a new ego, but in fact you will have no-self, because you will be one with Jesus and God so your self (with small caps) will die and you will be born again the in the Self (with big caps).

Abrakamowse,

God isn't one with everything.  There would be no suffering in this world, IF that was the case.  I agree with the denial of the old, wicked, nature within oneself through the personal, SPIRITUAL REHABILITATION made possible ONLY through fellowship with the Father, by the enabling power of His Spirit, and in the name of Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son.  Christ NEVER taught that we should deny our very existence as human individuals, loved by the Father who sent Him into the world to die for us.

John 3 (NKJV) tells us:

The New Birth

There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.”

Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you,unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”

Jesus answered, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.  That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.  Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”

Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things?  Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness.  If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?  No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.  For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.  For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.  And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.  But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”

John the Baptist Exalts Christ

After these things Jesus and His disciples came into the land of Judea, and there He remained with them and baptized.  Now John also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there was much water there. And they came and were baptized.  For John had not yet been thrown into prison.

Then there arose a dispute between some of John’s disciples and the Jews about purification.  And they came to John and said to him, “Rabbi, He who was with you beyond the Jordan, to whom you have testified—behold, He is baptizing, and all are coming to Him!”

John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven.  You yourselves bear me witness, that I said, ‘I am not the Christ,’ but, ‘I have been sent before Him.’  He who has the bride is the bridegroom; but the friend of the bridegroom, who stands and hears him, rejoices greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice. Therefore this joy of mine is fulfilled.  He must increase, but I must decrease.  He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.  And what He has seen and heard, that He testifies; and no one receives His testimony.  He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true.  For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.  The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.  He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

Happy searching....

Andrea 

     

Edited May 1, 2019 by Soul-lover 2020