How much do you think we're constrained to God's plan? (Free will vs. Destiny)

[leintdav000]

Interesting question for you guys... I've been in this self-help, meditation, consciousness game for quite some time and I'm not sure how much I actually buy into free will... I reflect on my life, my parents, and my friends, and it seems we're all very confined to a unique role to play. I was born with a certain eccentric disposition, a set in stone IQ, a specific environment, which for better or worse, dramatically shaped me; once you dissociate  as this "player" in the human experience, and you move into the observer, or essence, of one's self, it appears we're locked in a certain domain. Luckily, I've made peace with this. I like who I am, I like the path that God has put forth for me. I'm curious, however, how much we can actually bend God's plan for us? Meaning, given my innate personality, IQ, and disposition due to environmental reasons, I'm set in stone to be a certain way--obviously, we change over time, but at my core, I'll always be me, if that makes sense? Because I'm locked in as me, there are certain paths I'll just never walk because they simply weren't in my cards/ destiny to walk. It feels like everything was perfectly set in stone for me to play my role: whatever that means. I'm really sure how to word this, but as I've gotten older It feels like there's nothing in my control, and all that there's left to do is submit to God's plan. Any of you ever felt this way? 

I've also noticed that two things can be simultaneously true. Even though I have no free will--I'm locked in a certain domain--I have unlimited free will? It's as if my free will is locked within a domain; in which, I have unlimited of it, but again, it's confined to the domain by which God's plan put forth for me. Not sure if that makes senes--I've never tried to articulate it before. Let me know your experience with this debate. 

Edited April 9, 2019 by leintdav000
update

[CreamCat]

You're presumably a god in training.

[Matt8800]

@leintdav000 The tools you have that you can use for evolution are set in stone. Your intention on how to use those tools is your free will. How much "free will" you have depends on the degree to which you have dissolved your ego.

You can "waste" your tools or you can use them to build something of immense beauty. That something would be what/who you are when you die. We have no time to waste.

Edited April 11, 2019 by Matt8800

[Andreas]

100% determined. You cannot do anything evil. You are always running towards happiness or power. Everything is determined. But that’s ok. Because you are god and you live exactly as you want to. The ego you call you is just experiencing you. It’s like creating a video game and playing by the rules.

When you increase your consciousness you do have more ‘free’ will. But that ‘free’ will is only used for love and intelligence. You cannot use ‘free’ will to create evil. Only ego to protect love/intelligence. But your ego can experience the illusion of free will because it can ‘choose’ less effective ways of moving towards happiness. That’s not really free will though. But you don’t need that. You just need consciousness. When you have consciousness, your determined action will always be what you want, creating the illusion of free will. 

You BECOME free will, you don’t ‘have’ free will. 

[Nahm]

On 4/9/2019 at 0:39 AM, leintdav000 said:

Interesting question for you guys... I've been in this self-help, meditation, consciousness game for quite some time and I'm not sure how much I actually buy into free will... I reflect on my life, my parents, and my friends, and it seems we're all very confined to a unique role to play. I was born with a certain eccentric disposition, a set in stone IQ, a specific environment, which for better or worse, dramatically shaped me; once you dissociate  as this "player" in the human experience, and you move into the observer, or essence, of one's self, it appears we're locked in a certain domain. Luckily, I've made peace with this. I like who I am, I like the path that God has put forth for me. I'm curious, however, how much we can actually bend God's plan for us? Meaning, given my innate personality, IQ, and disposition due to environmental reasons, I'm set in stone to be a certain way--obviously, we change over time, but at my core, I'll always be me, if that makes sense? Because I'm locked in as me, there are certain paths I'll just never walk because they simply weren't in my cards/ destiny to walk. It feels like everything was perfectly set in stone for me to play my role: whatever that means. I'm really sure how to word this, but as I've gotten older It feels like there's nothing in my control, and all that there's left to do is submit to God's plan. Any of you ever felt this way? 

I've also noticed that two things can be simultaneously true. Even though I have no free will--I'm locked in a certain domain--I have unlimited free will? It's as if my free will is locked within a domain; in which, I have unlimited of it, but again, it's confined to the domain by which God's plan put forth for me. Not sure if that makes senes--I've never tried to articulate it before. Let me know your experience with this debate. 

I can tell none of this is true by the fact that it’s all words. 

 “I was born with a certain eccentric disposition, a set in stone IQ, a specific environment, which for better or worse, dramatically shaped me; once you dissociate  as this "player" in the human experience, and you move into the observer, or essence, of one's self, it appears we're locked in a certain domain.”

None of that is true either. All of it is delusion and stands on the false foundation “I was born”. 

(I mean ‘delusion’ as positively as you can hear it)