Can one put attention on absolute nothing?

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Pernani said:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-szUcfbMc&feature=youtu.be

Hey @Leo Gura what do you think abt this video? Ruper spira says that attention only serves as directing consciousness away from consciousness towards an object (breath, thoughts for example), in order for consciousness to be aware of consciousness attention has to stop, and that meditation techniques that require the focus of attention only serve to calm the mind and are only preliminary exercises. 

Doesnt this contradict what you said in your self inquiry video that one has to concentrate on pure nothingness? 

There's really no contradiction. Just different ways to phrasing the same thing.

Meditation techniques which focus attention are very good. I wouldn't besmirch them as merely "preliminary exercises." Self-inquiry is a concentration exercise.

It is also possible to meditate on nothingness. But it's an advanced kind of meditation which is not easy for most people to do because the mind easily clings on to some form. So instead most newbies are taught a technique like: focus on the breath.

It is possible to put your attention on Nothingness if you're very conscious. It requires taking your attention off of all form. Basically you're trying to become conscious of formlessness, Shiva, or the Godhead.

[now is forever]

don’t confuse nothing with nothingness you can see nothing without seeing nothingness. deep realisation of nothingness comes before the realization of nothing though. you can also meditate on dependent arising and letting go. you only need to ask one question deep enough, well you don’t even need to ask it, if you become the question.

[Arnold666]

I would not say put 'attention on nothingness' rather 'a rest in nothingness' or even better description of experience is 'rest as nothingness.' 

[Leo Gura]

Another way to phrase it is: put your attention on attention itself. What is pure attention devoid of all content?

Try doing that for a bit and see how it feels. Notice it's really hard to keep your attention there. The attention veers off within seconds onto some form. This kind of meditation requires serious concentration ability which most people do not have in today's media-saturated culture.

You need to be able to concentrate so hard you could burn a hole through brick wall with your focus. This is the key to accessing the deepest levels of spirituality.

[lmfao]

@Pouya One way you might come across nothing would be to say to yourself "Whats creating this present moment experience"? What could be the answer to the question if your entire reality is the present moment? 

Or maybe you should self inquiry of some sort. Like asking yourself "what am I?". What makes the thoughts that pop into you head different the sounds you hear outside? What are the origin of things you call yourself and the origin of things you call other? 

[SOUL]

On 4/8/2019 at 2:17 PM, Leo Gura said:

I am talking about ACTUAL nothingness, not any idea you have. An idea you have of it, is not it, and it will prevent you from accessing it. So be careful. DO NOT TRY TO IMAGINE NOTHINGNESS. That is a giant waste of time. It will not work and you will not even be close.

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On 4/8/2019 at 2:17 PM, Leo Gura said:

but rather, nothingness is what you ARE. You are it. It is your truest nature. So rather than looking for nothingness, look for what you are, your truest nature. When I say "you" I am talking to that nothingness you are.

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On 4/8/2019 at 2:17 PM, Leo Gura said:

DO NOT TRY TO IMAGINE NOTHINGNESS. That is a giant waste of time. It will not work and you will not even be close.

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Edited April 10, 2019 by SOUL

[Inliytened1]

@SOUL he is speaking of Being.

If you can experience pure Being even once in your life it will be wonderful beyond words.  Most of us are lucky to have it once.  But then..luck has nothing to do with it.  GOD doesn't roll dice.

[SOUL]

He who? Who he? @Inliytened1 The he you speak of didn't speak of being here not in spirit not in theory not even in word once in passing.

Nothing doesn't exist so what's to think about it and being doesn't require concentration to be, being transcends the activity of the mind.

Just be aware of presence in the moment....of being now.

All of manifest existence is ultimately a willful toss of the fated bouncing die with everything on the line and nothing in hand.

Edited April 10, 2019 by SOUL

[now is forever]

@SOUL that’s really poetic!

[dvdas]

9:17

[Forestluv]

13 hours ago, SOUL said:

He who? Who he?

Who let the dogs out
Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof

[SriBhagwanYogi]

@lmfao "What makes the thoughts that pop into you head different the sounds you hear outside?" 

Nice you got that from Alan Watts