Ketamine

[Angelo John Gage]

If you want to experience infinite fractal and visuals AND the feeling of leaving your body; floating around these majestic scenes, then you should probably try Ketamine, at a dose high enough to induce these states.

A little history about me: I live in NJ which is a huge place for house music and drugs. The typical drugs people do here are cocaine, mollies, and ketamine. I've done a ton of drugs in my day but the one that changed a lot was when I realized how ketamine can be used outside the club scene.

Ketamine sends you into a "hole" which seems like an infinite strange loop...its not pleasant if your ego wants to escape it. IF you learn to sit there in peace, you will realize you're at the singularity prior to the big bang. I recall one trip where I was this black orb, forever folding on itself; I could feel the immense pressure and loneliness, until I decided to become everything else via an explosion.

The out of body experiences of literally floating around your living room are amazing. You literally flung around, like a roller coaster but without the stomach anxiety, into space, the clouds, and all sorts of different "rooms" your mind creates. Amazing and wonderful PERFECT structures which sometimes resemble gothic cathedrals and so on.

In regards to fractals, sometimes you will this language which looks like some alien writing, consntaly being written forever; its the only thing you see. Sometimes you will see basic structures like squares building entire cities, which then your eye zooms out and see an INFINITE plane being built.

It is certainly an amazing drug. I am not sure that it serves the same purpose as 5meo DMT, but from what reports I've read, 5meo doesn't have any OBEs. I have done DMT before and I enjoyed it, but I have no access to 5meo DMT. Of course I wish we could ask but its not allowed on the forum so I have to continue to try and find it myself, but ketamine should be easier to find for most people.

Anyway, if you haven't tried it or have done it in a club or something, do it at home instead. Take enough and put on some headphones while listening to some new-age or trance-like music. 

It can be snorted or injected into the muscle. I know the last one sounds like crack-head status, but its not intravenous  and that is actually how your supposed to take it for medicinal purposes. During surgery, an anesthesiologist will sometimes give you Ketamine intravenously, but that is with them using pharmaceutical grade, FDA approved vial; so DO NOT take it IV at home, ever. Anyone who takes insulin for diabetes or steroids for hormone replacement therapy should not have any negative feelings about intermuscular injection. Snorting does work, perhaps does last slightly longer, but takes a lot more and has less visuals unless you take a lot. The side effects are  a 'clouded head effect' the next day feeling nauseous, plus a nose full of crusty salt that you need to clear out. Intermuscular injection has virtually no side effects and hits faster, but lasts not as long, but the visuals are more potent and will cause a OBE.

Anyway, that's my input on this subject.

Edited March 31, 2019 by Angelo John Gage

[Matt8800]

Yes, ketamine is a powerful tool for spiritual work but it shouldnt be mentioned without mentioning its potential for serious addiction which can cause irreversible bladder damage.

The therapeutic dose for using ketamine to treat depression is 100-150 mg once a week. Studies have showed that amount is safe but exceeding that can be dangerous. 

[Angelo John Gage]

@Matt8800  Yes I've known ketamine addicts, but its not the substance that they are addicted to, but the escape and distortion of reality; especially in the club scene which is full of loud sounds and laser lights etc.

 

[MM1988]

Had a good experience meditating on ketamine. The deteachment from body and emotions is quite nice.

Other than that it didnt catapult me into states that feel out of reach without drugs, but I didnt k-hole. The feeling itself is honestly quite ordninary for what you expect from an anaesthetic, I personally dont find it very euphoric or addicting. But I can see the spiritual appeal regarding disconnect from mind.

Edited March 31, 2019 by MM1988

[Angelo John Gage]

Btw, to get the best visual, eyes should be closed and you should be in a comfy environment like a nice couch or bed, in a dark room with a small light source.

lol