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Spiral awakening stages are missing from our understanding!

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When people here talks about different degrees of awakening they might be referring to the spiral stages of awakening without knowing it , have you considered the possibility that awakening is like other facets of mind development levels , also comes with the spiral dynamics stages ?

The explanation of it is like follows , a person has enlightenment , but since it can't be communicated (for this era of time where we still can't connect peoples' consciousness together) then what comes after from the person who is enlightened is a communicated "description" of enlighenment (produced by certain neuron circuits into form) ,

The description of someone for enlightenment will be staged , and it will take the shape of (images , single human authority orders , absolute idealist phrases (religious truths as they call them) , material or realistic or rational (osho style) , shared and environmental values , higher systematic multi-worldview points , cosmic and all-encompassing and non-centric) ,

the stage that enlightenment appears in is the spiral dynamics stage that the owner is at ,

Notice that even when you are enlightened , you are still at a certain development stage in spiral dynamics , A person is conscious of so many degrees of awakening as his spiral dynamic stage and cognitive level that his mind is at , he will become conscious of the facets that his stage has reached ,

I would like to present a way of evaluating different awakenings by using the spiral dynamic stages ,

Blue awakening , orange awakening , etc ,

Cognitive level is the complex neuro circuits that your mind develops .

What do you think? ..

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3 hours ago, David Hammond said:

There is only one awakening, but the these stage descriptions reflect embodiment. 

Thats accurate ,

@David Hammond

 

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ken wilber does a good thing in his book integral psychology refering to defenitions of spirituality with relation to developmental psychology that i think is relevant to this idea.

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Sorry do not know anyone who claims to be Enlightened and is in low development stage.

Osho was not Orange, even if he had some traits of Orange, which I am not sure about, as it it is very tricky question, he for sure was not full blown Orange

 

P.S I should rephrase it, anyone who claims he is Enlightened and is well know , we get random claims often! :D 

Edited by purerogue

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@purerogue from what i saw and listened of him , i suspect that osho is influenced by an orange touch and you can see that in his style , his answers to audience (notice the type of answers he gives , somehow a realistic style) , his foundation , i suspect that this was the reason that he didnt manage his foundation well and went bad afterwards , leo described osho to be busy with individual meditation (a clue) ,

And yes of course osho is not full orange because to be orange is to be identified with its worldview rather than being enlightened and use the current cognitive level that you're at (orange for example) , i guess this means there are (orange enlightened , blue enlightened ,

Note : i didnt read osho's books yet and i intend to do so .

Note 2 : correct me if im wrong

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