From the mouth of the absolute

[FoxFoxFox]

Pay extra attention to where he is "I-am-ness" without there ever being someone who is the I-Am. That is the idea that one must go even beyond the subtlest of I-identification. You cannot stop at I am or I-I. You must go into voidbliss.

 

[Aakash]

@FoxFoxFox I silenced my mind and when i did ... i noticed what i called pure awareness is what remained. Quickly i took ownership of it stating this is me, this is I. Afterwards i realised if it is the nature of all objects, then to call it mines would be wrong, this is when i cried and had the realisation that this pure awareness is all that is. However, i shortly came back to the identification of it as my awareness, since its the only awareness i'm able to sense, so how could i be so sure that it was the experience of the table's awareness or consciousness for example. 

After i returned back to a silent mind, i thought to myself what if this is a sensation so to speak, the problem was that it couldn't be because its always there, BUT there sheer fact i am trying to focus on becoming the awareness or "the one who is aware of awareness (rupert spira)" it only caused me to think this was not it and that it was indeed a sensation or not the final thing. 

I never considered losing the identification with it, because that would put me into a realm where i knew nothing, i couldn't even know if i was enlightened or not because everything that starts with mind thereafter is just what is occuring and so i put myself into the frame of being aware of being aware, when i closed my eyes it was more difficult than when i had my eyes opened because i was looking and i was aware of looking, but in the dark, i was aware that it was dark but i couldn't grasp it as strongly. This is another reason i thought it to be incorrect and just a sensation or perception i was morphing. 

However, according to what you've said over the last few days it is basically the I-I state of awarness but i was claiming ownership over it, what you and this video is telling me is to relinquish that identification with the awareness, in other words BE the awareness itself and cast away reality, cast away all identifications made with the mind, cast away all perceptions, i was trying to do this but i found it quite difficult to analyse my surroundings for example i was still looking at my mother and calling her mum or i was looking at food and perceving without words that i would be eating in the next few moments. with reliquishing ownership that would extend to the things your perciecing and all that would be left would be god, but even saying god is too much, because you go around thinking this is god, this is god, this is god in your perception and therefore i thought again this was wrong because it should be total silence, without any thoughts that i should follow as a path.

so my question from what i talk about here about pure awareness, i agree it is the only thing that remains after you silence the mind, however, how can you be so sure it's not a sensation that you are percieving. and with trying to remain with it instensly you are not creating a forceful filter in which you are identifying with what you think awarness is. because what was happening to me was when i focused intensly on trying to be aware it would last a couple of seconds and then go, it always came and went and therefore it was not perminant in my consciousness and this is what made me think it was false and not enlightenment. 

 

[FoxFoxFox]

@Aakash

Shut up and go back here:

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and had the realisation that this pure awareness is all that is.

Stay with it until it becomes permanent and blissful.

You don't actually have a question. That's just the ego-mind realizing that it's losing its grasp and getting scared of death. Do whatever it takes to go back to that mode of being. Forget about everything else. You don't actually need to entertain thoughts and resolve your questions. I mean, you are not the mind's slave! 

"I" cannot be the one who gets rid of identification, because "I" exists only through identification. What you need then is intensity of energy and desire to overwhelm the mind so it cannot help but to fully dissolve. 

The process can be scary for the mind, but realize that it is your own holy nature that is taking over. 

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[Aakash]

7 minutes ago, FoxFoxFox said:

Forget about everything else.

this is harder than it seems, how do you survive without being able to analyse your environment and apply identification to aspects of life, i.e i'm driving a car and it could crash right now. 

 

here's 4 ways i do it: 

1) this is god, i am in god, that tree is a god 

2) this is an illusion, i am an illusion, that tree is an illusion 

3) this is beautiful so its fine, that is beautiful so its fine

4) No analysing  

with choosing no analysis, i don't have control over function or am not functional as a person. 

 

[FoxFoxFox]

@Aakash

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this is harder than it seems

No! It's actually easier than it seems.

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how do you survive without being able to analyse your environment and apply identification to aspects of life, i.e i'm driving a car and it could crash right now. 

This is what i'm talking about. This is just the mind trying it's damnedest to not lose control.

 

God will take care of itself. Trust God. 

 

Love, surrender, devotion, trust. All for God. 

[Aakash]

so how do you make a decision about anything? 

[FoxFoxFox]

@Aakash The truth is that the "I" who you think you are has never been making any decisions. You just thought that it does. Don't worry life goes on. God will take care of you. I am doing just fine, aren't I?

Trust and surrender. 

[Aakash]

so it would be to constantly keep lossing identification with everything and remaining aware of being aware so much seasons don't pass, nothing is happening and everything is bliss. 

I see and finally how does one conduct themselves without knowing whats ahead? 

[FoxFoxFox]

@Aakash

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So it would be to constantly keep losing identification with everything and remaining aware of being aware so much seasons don't pass, nothing is happening and everything is bliss. 

Be that without there being someone who is. That someone can only be a subtle "I". You already are awareness, so get rid of all false identification. Even the thought "I am awareness" must go.

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How does one conduct themselves without knowing whats ahead? 

Get rid of the one who wants to know. Get rid of the ones who conducts themselves. It is already your God nature who is doing all those things. Just bring it out of its hiding.

[Aakash]

alright i'm with you and in agreeance, its pretty much as i figured, awareness shouldn't know that it is awareness, it should just be awareness without there being one who is aware of being aware aka pure awareness 

finally, just to confirm, 

silence is the way to get rid of identification. 

[FoxFoxFox]

@Aakash

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awareness shouldn't know that it is awareness

Awareness shouldn't know itself AS awareness. Awareness is awareness. Like Jesus said, I am that I am.

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silence is the way to get rid of identification. 

The best analogy is pulling back energy from thoughts and allowing it to merge back into your being. Peace is a better word to use instead of silence. Follow peace.

[Aakash]

@FoxFoxFox Yeah i totally get that, that's what i feel like the line of work is, progresing to a stage of complete being instead of a complete thinker. anyways thank you for your help, i've been stuck on these questions for 2 months now without a way to express it until i somehow found the words now! Thank you. 

 

[FoxFoxFox]

@Aakash