acting like god vs identifying with god

[Aakash]

what is the difference and how does ego play a role in this? (note: even if we are talking about trans-ego)

[mandyjw]

You act like God when you have concepts about God and how he should act, ego. You identify (are) God when you let go of concepts about anything, egoless. 

[Highest]

Acting like God is the ego. All identification is Ego. One must become conscious and aware that one is God. There is a big difference and distinction in that.

[Aakash]

@Highest Thiis what i'm trying to figure out, after you become conscious then they are god, then they start acting like god basically . so how can it be egoic, when its the truth? 

 

[Highest]

3 minutes ago, Aakash said:

@Highest Thiis what i'm trying to figure out, after you become conscious then they are god, then they start acting like god basically . so how can it be egoic, when its the truth? 

 

It can't be egoic if it is the Truth which it is. But who are these people who you say start acting like God after becoming conscious of Him? Must be Zen devil's or something like that.

[TheAvatarState]

@Aakash Who is acting like God?

You see, the eternal, infinite "you" is God. You are nothing other than God. The egoic "you" is an illusory identity that, while part of God's infinite beauty, also distances you from God-consciousness. 

"Identifying as God" is a bit of a misnomer. It is the identity that is all-encompassing, all-loving, and completely identity-less. It is nothing, void. 

You can only act as God when you identify as God, that is to say you've surrendered all identity and attachments. God will work through you when you've surrendered. You are no longer in control. This is what Leo is trying to achieve over the next few years. 

[thesmileyone]

How can you act like God if you are God ?

[Highest]

4 minutes ago, TheAvatarState said:

@Aakash

You can only act as God when you identify as God, that is to say you've surrendered all identity and attachments.

 

To identify as God is still identification as well. All identification must perish and only God must remain.

[Aakash]

4 minutes ago, TheAvatarState said:

You can only act as God when you identify as God, that is to say you've surrendered all identity and attachments. God will work through you when you've surrendered. You are no longer in control. This is what Leo is trying to achieve over the next few years. 

so lets work through this, when i surrender all identity but that i am god,

and attachments, so when i become desireless? 

i already don't think i'm in control, the more total i see gods power, the more i realise that we are the same thing, regardless of what choices/ actions are made. 

[Highest]

6 minutes ago, Highest said:

To identify as God is still identification as well. All identification must perish and only God must remain.

@TheAvatarState But I agree that after all identification is dead and only God remains, you can act as God. This happens by itself and is done by itself.

[TheAvatarState]

10 minutes ago, Highest said:

To identify as God is still identification as well. All identification must perish and only God must remain.

Yes. But the concept of identification must fly out the window. For instance, my ego self identifies as Male. There are many reasons why this identity is important when living in society. But identifying as God is like identifying as every gender or classification that exists or ever will exist simultaneously. Is it really an identity at that point? Or a surrender to totality? An identity only means something in relation to other identities. Your true nature is identity-less, so stop playing that game.

[Highest]

1 minute ago, TheAvatarState said:

Is it really an identity at that point? Or a surrender to totality? An identity only means something in relation to other identities. Your true nature is identity-less, so stop playing that game.

I agree, it's not identity at that point. It's total surrender to That which is Everything or the Totality aka God. I'm not playing any game, I know very well I'm identity-less.

[FoxFoxFox]

@Highest Well let me ask you this since i think we have the same problem in conveying the message. Is this "I" you mention that is "Identity-less" a function of the English language, or are you saying that you literally are a someone who is identity-less? 

[Highest]

1 minute ago, FoxFoxFox said:

@Highest  or are you saying that you literally are a someone who is identity-less? 

I'm saying that.

[TheAvatarState]

@Aakash God has desire. It is a self-less desire driven by Love. This is far beyond what the ego-mind could ever grasp. 

If God was desireless, then why are we here? What was the drive to create this beautiful existence? Why does God work miracles through people that have surrendered? Why does infinite love emanate from those closest?

[FoxFoxFox]

@Highest Huh. Well. No that's not what I'm saying. I literally had to be given an identity today and even that i've only consciously accepted as to be able to relate to other people. But people disagree with my experience so it MUST be false, right?

[Aakash]

@TheAvatarState i see, thank you all for your words, i think i have grasped an understanding from a merger of all your statements. 

[Highest]

1 minute ago, FoxFoxFox said:

@Highest Huh. Well. No that's not what I'm saying. I literally had to be given an identity today and even that i've only consciously accepted as to be able to relate to other people. But people disagree with my experience so it MUST be false, right?

No, those people have it false bro ?

[TheAvatarState]

@Aakash glad I was able to help ?

Man, Leo's latest stuff has really done a number on me ?

[TheAvatarState]

11 minutes ago, Highest said:

. I'm not playing any game, I know very well I'm identity-less

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not accusing you of playing a game in a childish, demeaning way. I'm just pointing to the truth that all identity is illusory, and that spiritual identity can be as toxic as identity politics.