How deluded Leo is ?

[mandyjw]

@tsuki I drew a picture for you. 

[tsuki]

@mandyjw Now I have popcorn AND a drawing. Beautiful!
This is what non-duality means. There is no duality between duality and non-duality.
You are clinging to one end of a paradox.

[Forestluv]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:38 PM, tsuki said:

There is no duality between duality and non-duality.

Very close!

[tsuki]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:40 PM, Serotoninluv said:

Very close!

Say what you have to say.
What does it mean?

Edited March 30, 2019 by tsuki

[Forestluv]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:38 PM, tsuki said:

There is no duality between duality and non-duality.
You are clinging to one end of a paradox.

There is no duality between duality and non-duality AND there is duality between duality and non-duality. 

There can also be clinging to one end of this paradox. 

[mandyjw]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:38 PM, tsuki said:

@mandyjw Now I have popcorn AND a drawing. Beautiful!
This is what non-duality means. There is no duality between duality and non-duality.
You are clinging to one end of a paradox.

You still wouldn't take the apple though. 

I might be clinging to one end of the paradox, but aren't you clinging to the other end? I'm living in my tree house and you're hugging the tree. Don't I have to do one or the other? Especially when you're trying to show someone what you think they may not be seeing? 

[tsuki]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:50 PM, Serotoninluv said:

There can also be clinging to one end of this paradox. 

There is no paradox. This is mind stuff.
Paradox is the sound of a mind that is crumbling.

There is only being. Tao.

Edited March 30, 2019 by tsuki

[tsuki]

Paradoxes are transcended by letting go of the mind.
Neither of their ends are real. This is still mind chatter.
It's better than linearity, but it's still chatter.

This is not being.

Edited March 30, 2019 by tsuki

[Forestluv]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:51 PM, tsuki said:

There is no paradox. This is mind stuff.
Paradox is the sound of a mind that is crumbling.

There is only being. Tao.

There is a deeper level of opposites.

[tsuki]

  On 3/30/2019 at 6:01 PM, Serotoninluv said:

There is a deeper level of opposites.

Of course. The mind never lets go until it does.
I bet you had to use lots of fancy psychedelics to get there.
Now you have all the experience in the world to tell other people they're wrong.

[Forestluv]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:31 PM, mandyjw said:

@tsuki I drew a picture for you. 

Nice drawing!

I also like the below image.

Notice how there is:

1. A young woman

2. An old woman

3. Both an old woman AND a young woman simultaneously.

4. Neither an old woman nor a young wonan simultaneously. 

5. Numbers 1-5 above are all true and false simultaneously.

If we add them all up. . . Drumroll. . . Everything and Nothing ? 

Each step gets progressively harder to “see”.

[Forestluv]

  On 3/30/2019 at 6:03 PM, tsuki said:

Of course. The mind never lets go until it does.
I bet you had to use lots of fancy psychedelics to get there.
Now you have all the experience in the world to tell other people they're wrong.

Haha ? 

I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m saying you are wrong AND right.  

One needs to let go of one to see the other. Then let go of the other to see both and neither.

I am saying you are wrong and right. I am also saying I am wrong and right. The Tao is both wrong and right. Look at the image I attached. I’m cool with agreeing and disagreeing with all of those paradoxical statements. 

It’s not a thinking thing. It’s nonverbal. Yet we often use words and images to help “see it”

Immersion in nature helped me a lot. In some areas, nature is a better teacher than humans.

[mandyjw]

  On 3/30/2019 at 5:58 PM, tsuki said:

Paradoxes are transcended by letting go of the mind.
Neither of their ends are real. This is still mind chatter.
It's better than linearity, but it's still chatter.

This is not being.

I like to be. I also like to chatter.  

[tsuki]

  On 3/30/2019 at 6:25 PM, mandyjw said:

I like to be. I also like to chatter.  

I bet you do. And that's the reason you still exist.
It's not about liking or not liking though.

  On 3/30/2019 at 6:08 PM, Serotoninluv said:

Haha ?

I like how your posts grow with time to be more and more integrated.
Without a trace of being edited.

Edited March 30, 2019 by tsuki

[ajasatya]

  On 3/30/2019 at 3:12 PM, sgn said:

Someone tried to hang you?

yes. my ex when she was having a bipolar breakdown.

[zambize]

  On 3/30/2019 at 6:35 PM, ajasatya said:

yes. my ex when she was having a bipolar breakdown.

Wait was she your ex at the time?  Or is that what made her your ex?

[ajasatya]

  On 3/30/2019 at 6:37 PM, zambize said:

Wait was she your ex at the time?  Or is that what made her your ex?

we weren't dating anymore. i was just trying to help her out. hard times

[zambize]

  On 3/30/2019 at 6:39 PM, ajasatya said:

we weren't dating anymore. i was just trying to help her out. hard times

Yeah I think you helped her get out some repressed emotions, very good job

[bejapuskas]

@ajasatya  You always surprise me. How do you even help such a deeply unhappy person?

[tsuki]

@ajasatya That's quite a story man.
Was it pre-arranged to let her anger out, or did it happen, ahem, spontaneously?