Sleeping on back

[KP_Spirituality27]

Hello. I am trying to sleep on the back for a longer time ( 6 months ) without any pillow, but I always change positions after about 30 minutes because it is uncomfortable for me. I am very motivated and I want to build this habit at last.

 

I have some back problems, and I feel that it REALLY can help.

I have never fallen asleep on my back in my life!

 

could you recommend or sugest something to me? 

[Arcangelo]

Hey! I am all about sleeping on my back! There is a lot of youtube videos for that.

I know it is the way to go. I am able to sleep on my back after doing sports exhaustively.

If you are trying to do it without any pillows you are trying to run before you learn to walk. Put a pillow under your neck and a pillow under your knees. If you feel it necessary put pillows under your arms. The pillows under your arms will help you to not roll during your sleep.

Now i am able to sleep for an hour without any pillows on a cold floor. It's all about practice.

Beware: you will have spiritual experiences by trying to sleep on your back.

TIP: Tape your mouth. Tape it diagonally for safety measures. You will be able to breath from the sides of your mouth if necessary. Leave a piece of the strip untapped for easy removal. Use micropore tape.

Keep us posted.

[KP_Spirituality27]

57 minutes ago, Arcangelo said:

 

Beware: you will have spiritual experiences by trying to sleep on your back.

What do you mean? Sounds interesting. Tell me more please

do you feel better, healthier when you sleep on your back?

[now is forever]

what about stable side position literally?

sleeppng on the back is not very good for oxigen intake, due to tongue falling back and snoring.

and i want pictures of the mouth taping!

Edited March 25, 2019 by now is forever

[InfinitePotential]

1 hour ago, Arcangelo said:

Beware: you will have spiritual experiences by trying to sleep on your back.

TIP: Tape your mouth. Tape it diagonally for safety measures. You will be able to breath from the sides of your mouth if necessary. Leave a piece of the strip untapped for easy removal. Use micropore tape.

This.  I have generally had the craziest middle of the night experiences while sleeping on my back.  Also taping the mouth in general is just a healthy practice.

 

Here's a really comfortable and healthy way to lay down on your back:

 

[KP_Spirituality27]

 

for 5 years I have problems with spine (sternal pains). I've done thousands of tests but still doctors can not find out why I'm in pain. I noticed that the pain is stronger in the morning. My intuition tells me that I must, I must damn it try to sleep on my back. Perhaps for a reason is it so difficult to move on my back in my case?

[now is forever]

@KP_Spirituality27 for how long does the pain last in the morning? just asking because it could be bechterew. it’s a symptom.

if it doesn’t show in the blood it doesn’t mean anything, could be serum negative.

if it’s that you’d need to try vegan diet and maybe need a good doc.

i’d try to find out - it’s really worth it because if it’s that and you don’t react it’s no joke.

Edited March 25, 2019 by now is forever

[KP_Spirituality27]

10 minutes ago, now is forever said:

@KP_Spirituality27 for how long does the pain last in the morning? just asking because it could be bechterew.

if it doesn’t show in the blood it doesn’t mean anything, could be serum negative.

if it’s that you’d need to try vegan diet and maybe need a good doc.

i’d try to find out - it’s really worth it because if it’s that and you don’t react it’s no joke.

I translated my problem from polish language to english.(posted it in polish forum) There we go:

 

 

Hey. I would like to describe my spinal problem. Maybe someone ever met with it. I've been trying to solve this mystery since 2012, but my hands are already falling.

 I have 19 years. I spent my entire life at the computer in a hunched position. Unfortunately, I am unaware of the consequences that await me ... In 2012, my spine in the sternum began to ache. I started doing a lot of research. A light kyphosis and lordosis came out to me. However, it did not have too much connection with pain in the sternum. The doctors had no idea why pain was there and they sent me home. In 2015, I did a magnetic resonance imaging and showed me the dehradiation of the breast disks. I went to the doctor with it and he said that the pain would pass away and that everything would be okay. Then I gave up completely, I felt terribly misunderstood. This is a very specific type of pain, it appears in the breastbone and the surrounding area, I feel as if I was just about to break a sternum or ribs around it. Sometimes it radiates in a strange way. . The strangest thing - when i does not do a lot of moves that cause it,  it completely disappears (and that's why I did not bother most of the time, but I started to practice martial arts very intensively) When it is already called by, for example, squeezing hands in front of chest (in the form of a prayer ) or through dips (push-ups on handrails) or a long time slouching, it stays for a really long period. And then for a few days, then it disappears. I have the impression that this is a real mystery, sometimes I think it can not be solved or not cured. Sometimes I have the impression that it is an inflammation of the sternum and ribs around it. But lasting 7 years? In the last few days, I have caused him to be unknowingly unfortunately, and now there is enormous pain all the time. Who should I sign up for best? Physiotherapist? or maybe someone who solves such puzzles? oh how much I would give to finally cure it ... or at least be aware WHY?

Edit 1: I will add that once I felt the smell of cigarettes for a long time, despite the fact that I never smoked regularly and intuitively I have a feeling that one of the other is related. In addition, it happens (rarely) that when I get up in the morning it's hard for me to take a full breath. I feels some strange limitation, but usually after 3-5 min passes.

 

[now is forever]

@KP_Spirituality27 mhhh - ok so is it every morning or only if you have done sports?

is there a stiffness in the back?

sorry i just realized in english it would be ankylosing spondylitis but what you describe it maybe not.

Edited March 25, 2019 by now is forever

[KP_Spirituality27]

4 minutes ago, now is forever said:

@KP_Spirituality27 mhhh - ok so is it every morning or only if you have done sports?

its hard to answer... both i think

[now is forever]

@KP_Spirituality27 don’t get shocked if you read about it - it might not be. well but some parts really sound like it and the doctor is an idiot - you’d need to find a good specialist for arthritis, i tell you now it’s one of the hardest things. and if it’s that they will give you a lot of shitty medication. but you can also do a lot with diet and alternative medication.

so i tried to find a good symptom resource but the german wikipedia says different symptoms than the english one...

Edited March 25, 2019 by now is forever

[now is forever]

so is it the sternum and the sacrum?

i’m just asking because on the german wikipedia they explicitly also have the sternum as a symptom - and i know a guy with ankilosing spondylitis who has mainly the shoulders affected. so the symptoms might be not clearly enough described in some descriptions. what can be confusing.

morning pain and stiffness is a strong sign for the rheumatic diseases.

Edited March 26, 2019 by now is forever

[Arcangelo]

By spiritual experiences i mean lucid dreaming and astral projections. Just focus on beating your previous record. If you could do 30 minutes aim to do 35 and so on. When yo do have those spiritual experiences try to stay at the other dimension as long as you can. Coolest shit ever.

More real than real.

[KP_Spirituality27]

9 hours ago, now is forever said:

so is it the sternum and the sacrum?

i’m just asking because on the german wikipedia they explicitly also have the sternum as a symptom - and i know a guy with ankilosing spondylitis who has mainly the shoulders affected. so the symptoms might be not clearly enough described in some descriptions. what can be confusing.

morning pain and stiffness is a strong sign for the rheumatic diseases.

Sternum only. 

and the pain is radiating around

my diet is actually perfect imo. I eat only organic, a lot of fiber, seeds, vegetables, I do not remember when I last time ate meat, a lot of herbal teas etc. The diet will not help.

 

in the morning there is much, much smaller than during exercises / specific movements. (like squeezing hands in front of the chest)

[now is forever]

@KP_Spirituality27 can you leave out milk products for a while, too? eggs and butter would be ok. just to see if it gets better? 

i’m not sure if the back not being part of it is indication enough for not being it. other undeclarable pains in joints? did you get eye infections or some of the other symptoms? 

sorry to bother you like this i’m getting alarmed because if i would not have sticked to my self diagnosis no one would have believed or treated me - i didn’t want to believe it myself in the first place (have or had it in the joints of my hands so it’s another arthritis) you need to exclude all possibilities first until you can say it’s def not that. so i can def connect to that symptom.

if i was you i’d read a little bit about this illness and compare it to your experience, if it sounds familiar i’d go to a specialist. a lot of cases don’t get discovered because symptoms are case sensitive, means they vary in a certain range in different people.

Edited March 26, 2019 by now is forever

[Nahm]

@KP_Spirituality27

A shot in the dark, but any chance you’re working out / doing new physical things which are strengthening some muscles, but neglecting the back muscles? 

[pluto]

Why would you want to force yourself to sleep a certain way? Sleep however you want there are no right or wrongs as long as you are sleeping peacefully and on a firm surface so your skeletal structure is holding your body not your muscles and you wake up fresh and wanting to conquer the world, it doesn't matter what position you sleep. Do some Yoga and Martial arts daily and maybe start adjusting to a more whole-food healthy diet.

For me personally soon as i went plant-based and incorporated more whole foods into my life and exercised at least 3 times a week i never had back problems again and also i sleep on firmer surface because our bodies are not designed to sleep on soft surfaces.

Sleep on the ground with some padding you will be amazed after a few weeks how much deeper and better you sleep and back problems should naturally go away

[KP_Spirituality27]

 

I'm sorry, I do not want it to sound unpleasant, but I do not need advice right now. Only what I care about is finally getting used to sleeping on my back.

 

[KP_Spirituality27]

 

Ok. It's amazing. A 7 day sleep on the back is passing.  after 6 months of trying, I said I would die or at last fall asleep on my back. I managed to sleep for 3 hours. I felt huge stiffness and all my spine. The next day, I normally fell asleep on my back.

First of all - My posture is damned upright during the day. I have much more energy, despite the fact that I get up much earlier because I only sleep for 5-6 hours. Six-year spinal problems have disappeared in 80% and the condition of the spine improves day by day. I recommend to anyone who ever wonders about it. I'm surprised why everything changes so much. Maybe because I slept on my stomach all the time.

[outlandish]

Nice one @KP_Spirituality27 good to hear you figured this out. I'm a big fan of back-sleeping and using little to no pillow, although I do mix in some side lying as well. 

Another thing I recommend for anyone who has to work on a computer/desk and has back problems is to stand at your desk, and to be physically active. This made a tremendous difference to me when I started having some lower back problems about 5 years ago. Today I have none.